War system questions

Rig · Post by **Rig** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:06 pm

Dumai's Well isn't a factor in this because we're not in that timeline. That history is yet to come. So no, I don't mean that.

Rig · Post by **Rig** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:07 pm

Also yes, we're all aware of Sedai and their ability to bend the truth and Oaths into ways that work for them without really "breaking" them.

Post by **Octavio** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:54 pm

Rig wrote:Dumai's Well isn't a factor in this because we're not in that timeline. That history is yet to come. So no, I don't mean that.

We are on no definitive timeline. Things are blended up so short of saying you're the Dragon and being able to prove it, everything is pretty much fair game.

“As the Wheel of Time turns, places wear many names. Men wear many names, many faces. Different faces, but always the same man. Yet no one knows the Great Pattern the Wheel weaves, or even the Pattern of an Age. We can only watch, and study, and hope.”
― Robert Jordan, The Eye of the World

Post by **Reyne** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:04 pm

Rig wrote: 1: Tower left Manetheren to die, so Eagles shouldn't have firetruck all to do with Tower

Timelines are all screwy as was said but if Manetheren exists again then didn't Aes Sedai help found it during the Battle of Emond's Field?

Rig · Post by **Rig** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:17 pm

Octavio wrote:
Rig wrote:Dumai's Well isn't a factor in this because we're not in that timeline. That history is yet to come. So no, I don't mean that.
We are on no definitive timeline. Things are blended up so short of saying you're the Dragon and being able to prove it, everything is pretty much fair game.

“As the Wheel of Time turns, places wear many names. Men wear many names, many faces. Different faces, but always the same man. Yet no one knows the Great Pattern the Wheel weaves, or even the Pattern of an Age. We can only watch, and study, and hope.”
― Robert Jordan, The Eye of the World

We have no in game history of Dumai's Wells. It doesn't count for dung as an argument anyway you spin it.

Re: War system questions
Post by Reyne » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:04 pm

Rig wrote:
1: Tower left Manetheren to die, so Eagles shouldn't have firetruck all to do with Tower

Timelines are all screwy as was said but if Manetheren exists again then didn't Aes Sedai help found it during the Battle of Emond's Field?

No, Manetheren doesn't exist anymore. This was in the past, Eagles (having been an Eagle on an alt myself) can confirm this, therefore has in game history.

Rig · Post by **Rig** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:18 pm

I hate you all for bringing out the RP nazi in me.

Post by **Raeza** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Rig wrote:We have no in game history of Dumai's Wells. It doesn't count for dung as an argument anyway you spin it.

The relevance of that particular example is just that there is precedent in the books that an Aes Sedai can channel against humans, despite the third oath, if she is being attacked, even if she intentionally puts herself in harm's way. It has nothing to do with timelines or historical events. It also does not speak to the issue of whether Aes Sedai SHOULD be taking that course of action, just that it is possible to do so. It is relevant because there was the suggestion that rocking into Amador (or wherever else) and then channeling when humans attack you is cheating and violating the oaths and should therefore be disallowed.

There might be other reasons not to do it, but the oaths allow it.

Rig · Post by **Rig** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:37 pm

I'm aware of that. I'm not picking sides, just being an rp nazi. Just saying from an rp standpoint Eagles would probably tell Tower to shove it and fight the war on Amador themselves.

Post by **Raeza** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:48 pm

That was your point 1. Dumai's Wells was related to your point 4.

Post by **Tandrael** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:53 pm

Rig wrote:I'm aware of that. I'm not picking sides, just being an rp nazi. Just saying from an rp standpoint Eagles would probably tell Tower to shove it and fight the war on Amador themselves.

That’s just, like, your opinion, man.