IDEA: Checking for uniques

[Lea]

people were alting scalps to turn in for vials at the ratter

Ahhh, so this is why we got rid of this. I was missing this option on my unclanneds.

[Elysia]

people were alting scalps to turn in for vials at the ratter

Ahhh, so this is why we got rid of this. I was missing this option on my unclanneds.

Yeah, that's 100% the reason why we got rid of it.

[Alterith]

How about requiring ppl to mail imm or post a pk log at least once a week? Doesn’t matter if you don’t get kills or the pk happens in a city, just show activity of pk with it!

[Kryyg]

I mean so much is broken on this game. Turn points can be easily cheated for and have been cheated for like crazy. It’s not players faults if the game has silly glaring loop holes. You can’t expect any player to go by honor, except me.

Unfortunately in situations where the game is broken, immortals need to step in manually.

[Elysia]

How about requiring ppl to mail imm or post a pk log at least once a week? Doesn’t matter if you don’t get kills or the pk happens in a city, just show activity of pk with it!

Considering we have like 30-35 uniques, that's a lot of logs. Also, I doubt imms will ever require pk as a way to be active with a unique. As long as it's out of clan rooms, whether for smobbing or exp, we consider it being played.

That's also part of the reason why a 1 on 1 exchange for a rare will never work. Even if a unique is only released or only exchangeable once per year, that's upwards of 20 uniques-turned-into-rares entering the game. It would require nuking all randi-loads and completely choke off our ability to release fun things for global quests or mob raids. Unless of course we're beginning to see an influx of rares leaving the game, but it seems to me that people hold on even to decrepit rares for whatever reason.

[hyzael]

How about requiring ppl to mail imm or post a pk log at least once a week? Doesn’t matter if you don’t get kills or the pk happens in a city, just show activity of pk with it!

perfect world.. will never happen though

[Jaster]

How about requiring ppl to mail imm or post a pk log at least once a week? Doesn’t matter if you don’t get kills or the pk happens in a city, just show activity of pk with it!

Considering we have like 30-35 uniques, that's a lot of logs. Also, I doubt imms will ever require pk as a way to be active with a unique. As long as it's out of clan rooms, whether for smobbing or exp, we consider it being played.

That's also part of the reason why a 1 on 1 exchange for a rare will never work. Even if a unique is only released or only exchangeable once per year, that's upwards of 20 uniques-turned-into-rares entering the game. It would require nuking all randi-loads and completely choke off our ability to release fun things for global quests or mob raids. Unless of course we're beginning to see an influx of rares leaving the game, but it seems to me that people hold on even to decrepit rares for whatever reason.

The 20 new rares entering the game wouldn’t matter considering the rate on which rares are degrading and not played. The same people will play the rares, while the other people will trade rares, while the last group of people will watch them sit in a rent saying wooo. The game needs avenues to increase reward and fun. Too much emphasis is put on how to destroy or belittle that. This game requires and depends on time spent. When the time spent does not equate to the reward/stimulation, the player leaves or does something else. This game thrives when there is activity and things to achieve. The less you can achieve or have left to achieve the more of a waste of time it becomes.

[iria]

Both agree and disagree. If you want a rare to be the "achievement" then it would need to stay rare, granted the market is already fairly flooded with certain rares after they were made craftable - lots of pods floating around now, which in turn diminishes their value a fair bit. Used to be if you got a PoD you'd feel pretty good, these days they are practically given away(not really). That being said I think if you downed the amount of uniques, or adjusted their turn in, it wouldn't be a problem. For example Blight Killer is pretty terrible, don't have it give a knife axe or pair of axes, at the most have it give 2 jcuffs or maybe a silver medallion. Justice/Malf shouldn't give rare upon exchange, since these are already enforced to be turned in. Battle flail shouldn't either. If you were to rank them much the same as you did on the collector thread, 3rd/2nd/top tier, then have top tier give a heron med/long, second tier give shocklance/knife axe/dbelt, 3rd tier some jcuffs, egown or a silver medallion, or maybe just some TPs and a couple thousand gold crowns. Probably won't be too many who will turn in Lamans, Hatchet and whatever other top tier uniques for a heron, unless they are leaving the game for a bit. Doubt the market will get substantially more flooded than it already is and as Jaster said some will likely end up in rents/trades and some gets played.

[Rodger]

. Unless of course we're beginning to see an influx of rares leaving the game, but it seems to me that people hold on even to decrepit rares for whatever reason.

That might be because of the (possibly mistaken) belief that sometimes you can trade or sell things to get them back to pristine. A post saying that this is no longer the case would probably see those used rares go to the quartermaster, or tps or traded.

[Fermin]

Just wanted to bump this as, I still think my original idea was good, and have no idea what the current policy is, why the random mobs and TPs exist, etc. Also the original idea works fine to change to no uniques if you just remove them as they are found.

Basically this, never check for unique activity unless you have a request by a player to do so that comes with some amount of gold/hard to get item/exp. For example 5000 gold. No one is going to waste that money unless they know for sure an item is out of play for some reason. Super simple, most uniques are in play and rotating around at different speeds.

Here is another simple rule that fixes uniques: If you have a unique you must play that character and not alts, all uniques will be as active as their players, if they aren't active means the player isn't and why do we need to take their item?

Just bumping this because I think my original idea is fine, and whatever was implemented seemed like more work for the imms and also completely bogus for the players. If you don't want to check for unique activity, just never check for it, seems way easier and also better then whatever is happening now...