Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

[corath]

Angkar was in full dodge with out a unique at the time I believe

Nexen if not for the mobs I’d still be beat and you would still be wounded.

[gawrath]

Seems that way cause a lot of us are berserk at the time when you are getting sat. (high risk) there fore high reward.

[Rig]

As a master and someone who plays all of these different set ups almost every other day, I can comment on all of these minus axes: (i think axes are trash if that helps but haven't given them a try)

Long Blades: csword is most definitely the go to for bash and pretty decent dmg. If I ever get tired of not being able to sit those pesky doggos (here's looking at langois!) then I'll use a csword for a bit. Gsword? Haven't bothered. Poor mans csword. Claymore is probably my second favorite. Better dmg than csword I believe, bash is decent enough. Wsl is my favorite. High ob, high dmg, bash is iffy but not too bad. It's the epitome of a long blade.

Clubs: prod has the best ob I believe and pretty solid bash. Dmg is mediocre but doable with master I believe.
Mallet is strong as firetruck. Decent ob and amazing bash. Perfect.
Mauls are lacking in this department. Sure the dmg is great and consistent. The bash not so much. The bashes you do land, the ob doesn't make up for it.

Halberds: trash.

Edit: heron greatsword feels as if it needs more ob in my opinion but I haven't used since the parry changes.

[Zhai]

I feel like everything is quite distorted towards abs at the present moment.

Dodge is like terrible because everyone is abs/bash and it just gets bashed by everything.

Combo is nothing like it used to be and you basically don't have the defence or abs to justify not going abs.

Having said that though, Nexen pulls some great dodge. I did not land a single bash on that Nexen fellow. Granted he probably has a bunch of super rares/uniques. I tried my s'redit prod and it landed absolutely nothing. So I got a H/H mallet from chest and still nothing. Zerk/mounted with both and still nothing. I'm not master though so likely some master with a rusty dagger would bash him. I noticed Cam later landed a few with a csword on him though.

If you are not Nexen though, you will most likely die horribly to a zerk bash.

Axes are pretty useless. I was using axes and there was a noticeable difference when I swapped to clubs. Oddly, swords like csword seem to bash better than clubs.

[keim]

I'd like to add that in that list of weapons, the following should be "poor mans re-eq" weapons and not considered top contenders:
Spiked warhammer
Double axe with black haft
Mattock
Gold axe
Halberd
Claymore

These should be "bad" mirror images of their Top tier version. IE. Mattock should bash but have terrible ob/dmg. Claymore should have high ob but bad weight/dmg. Gold Axe should have high dmg but bad OB/weight, ect.

Not sure halberd should be included in that list, it is basically the top, and pretty much only, bashing polearm. Besides halberd the polearm class only has dark steel trident, which is a rare as far as i know, and blue steel trident which is basically the backup comboish weapon for dark steel trident. The whole weapon class basically turns to complete trash after that as far as I know.

Granted I have been gone a long time and have never been a big abs basher player but if anything it looks like halberd should possibly be slightly upped and some other polearm given a bump to become the poor mans reequip for halberd. Or possibly leave halberd as a pretty good weapon thats just easy to equip and doesn't offer much variety which could be a cool niche group for it as well.

ps. if I am completely off base here feel free to say so

[Curtis]

Swords don't do as much damage as you'd think, it's just that their damage rolls are very narrow so they are deceiving. Still probably the best though.

[fiddler]

Nexen is an anomaly. Down Nexen.

[Gizmo]

Having dodge with grings sids jcuffs egown I fear longblades more then anything atm. Besides mallet feel like swords sit me the most. I feel like Cswords just destroy me. 140 db and isabel sat me earlier 6 times in a row. granted she later missed a bunch in a row. Not sure what top db is now tho.

[isabel]

140 db and isabel sat me earlier 6 times in a row. granted she later missed a bunch in a row. Not sure what top db is now tho.

That was h/h bronzer not csword

[Gizmo]

I've fought so many people past couple days that it all bled together. But there were a couple people with cswords that just destroyed me.