HoA Bash

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Rig
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Rig » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:04 pm

I also agree with whoever said HoA bash is pretty used to kill the harder to kill players, For Example:
http://forums.wotmud.info/viewtopic.php?f=7 ... kyr#p38137

Shimu
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Shimu » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:33 pm

Rig sucks, lock this already.

Jestin
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Jestin » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:42 pm

I would like to refocus this whole argument to one primary complaint:

Bash is too detrimental to have this short of a timer.

Whether vs 1 or vs a group, you should not be able to get bashed in 8 pulses or whatever HoA currently is at right now. If it was lengthened to normal bash timer I would have much less of a problem with it.

Melayna
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Melayna » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:26 pm

Outside the Osenrein Gate
[ obvious exits: E W ]
An iron lantern hangs from the wall above the gate.
A Tar Valon bridgeguard peers at strangers suspiciously.
A Tar Valon bridgeguard peers at strangers suspiciously.
A Tar Valon bridgeguard peers at strangers suspiciously.
A Tar Valon bridgeguard peers at strangers suspiciously.
Ok, you'll try to move silently for a while.

* S HP:Wounded SP:Good MV:Strong > e
e
Along a Stony Path
[ obvious exits: S W ]

* S HP:Wounded SP:Good MV:Strong > s
Alas, you cannot go that way...
*Synthia* has arrived from the west, riding a wild stallion.
*Liia* has arrived from the west, riding a warhorse.

* S HP:Wounded SP:Good MV:Strong >
You swiftly dodge *Synthia*'s attempt to strike you.

* S HP:Wounded SP:Good MV:Strong - Synthia: Scratched > No way! You're fighting for your life!
You swiftly dodge *Liia*'s attempt to slice you.

* S HP:Wounded SP:Good MV:Strong - Synthia: Scratched > na oh
f
e
You narrate 'oh'

s
* S HP:Wounded SP:Good MV:Strong - Synthia: Scratched > s
You panic and attempt to flee!

na am out e

The impact of an unseen force sends you sprawling!


You stumble beneath the crushing force of the air around you!


Jestin narrates 'what'


Ouch! That Really did HURT!

Your body is pierced by razor sharp ice spikes sent by *Synthia*!


You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
You feel a sense of shame at your loss.
A flurry of icy spikes sent by Liia is the last thing you ever see.
You are dead! Sorry...
Ouch! You lose a level.
You stop following Jestin.
Circle of Darkness
[ obvious exits: N E S W U D ]
A revolting well bubbles with the blood of the sacrificed.
The News Board is mounted on the wall here.

o HP:Critical SP:Good MV:Haggard > Maybe you should get on your feet first?

o HP:Critical SP:Good MV:Haggard > Maybe you should get on your feet first?

o HP:Critical SP:Good MV:Haggard > Maybe you should get on your feet first?

o HP:Critical SP:Good MV:Haggard > Dead men tell no tales...

o HP:Critical SP:Good MV:Haggard > t jestin yup
You tell Jestin 'yup'

* HP:Critical SP:Good MV:Haggard > t jestin firetrucking hoa bash
You tell Jestin 'firetrucking hoa bash'

Jestin
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Jestin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:15 am

Case in point. Shouldn’t be able to be bashed that fast. Most people have this much fleelag after 3-4 flees which is nothing.

Mikhan
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Mikhan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:43 am

I just saw this thread. I haven't read all the responses yet, but I know mine: I agree with Jestin that HoA bash is too OP and should be changed/removed.

I haven't saved all the logs of the crazy HoA bash kills I've gotten, but some have made it onto the forums

Jestin
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Jestin » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:18 pm

Died to this again today :P This is seriously broken. We should all agree not to practice this until they fix it.

Firimei Lang
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Firimei Lang » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:13 am

Hahaha

Shzrei
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Shzrei » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:07 pm

Has anyone managed to set exact semantics of this?

I just know I had Mikhan HoA bash me about 20% - but I did 30+ HoA weaves on my tower FC in a row without a sprawling message - and I average about 5%.

Wondering if having bash practiced, or wearing heavier weight or something makes a difference.
I tested in hurricane weather and calm.

Mikhan
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Re: HoA Bash

Post by Mikhan » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:47 pm

It seems to go off about 5% to me.

I was hitting you with it 20% of the time? When? I'm pretty sure I only landed 1 HoA bash today, out of weaving 40+. Though yeah, sometimes it lands more frequently. That's just the nature of dice/statistics.

I actually think the % that it goes off is fine. I agree with Jestin that the real problem is that the one weave that can bash has an incredibly short timer. If instead a weave with the timer of ice spikes/fireball had a 5% bash, I think that would be more balanced.

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