2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
You're probably right re:fblades. They're not a 1v1 weapon except against abs. They're for following a basher around and spamming, and they do well with that. And the damage is great with master and attack. My main beef is the tulwar/sabre seem pointless, though there are plenty of other pointless weapons as well.
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Here's an example as to how terrible abs and abs weapons are, mainly clubs. I count 12 hits on him at crit with a mallet, 2 hits by trees and he didn't die, even though there was a half tic in there, still shoulda been dead.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
sc
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
You have 34(376) hit and 75(226) movement points.
You have scored 13221429 experience points and 12 quest points.
You need 1278571 exp to level and 18 qp to rank.
You have amassed 142 Turn points to date.
You have played 1 days and 13 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Inflicted Servant [Ghar'ghael 2] (Level 29).
You are standing.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > *Fero* has arrived from the east, riding a |5|.Domani razor.
You barely pound *Fero*'s left arm.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Winded - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Winded - Fero: Critical > You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
Fero swiftly dodges a shivering tree's attempt to hit him.
A shivering tree joins a shivering tree's fight!
A shivering tree barely tickles Fero's right foot with its hit.
A shivering tree tickles Fero's left hand with its hit.
You tickle *Fero*'s body with your pound.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > bash
+
*Fero* leaves east riding a Domani razor.
=
They're not here anymore!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > sc
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
You have 43(376) hit and 64(226) movement points.
You have scored 13222254 experience points and 12 quest points.
You need 1277746 exp to level and 18 qp to rank.
You have amassed 142 Turn points to date.
You have played 1 days and 13 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Inflicted Servant [Ghar'ghael 2] (Level 29).
You are standing.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > zerk
e
k h.human
[change mood berserk]
Mood changed to: Berserk
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N S W ]
A cute brown deer eyes you nervously.
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A young and strong buck is here, munching some grass.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You tickle *Fero*'s body with your pound.
A brown deer leaves west.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > w
k h.human
*Fero* leaves south riding a Domani razor.
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A cute brown deer eyes you nervously.
A raven is here flying around.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > w
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > Alas, you cannot go that way...
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
sc
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > You have 43(376) hit and 60(226) movement points.
You have scored 13223169 experience points and 12 quest points.
You need 1276831 exp to level and 18 qp to rank.
You have amassed 142 Turn points to date.
You have played 1 days and 13 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Inflicted Servant [Ghar'ghael 2] (Level 29).
You are standing.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
s
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N E ]
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > e
k h.human
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N E W ]
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A sickly, skinny deer stands here in a daze.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > *Fero* hacks your body.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
*Fero* wipes his boots in your face!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical >
You pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You tickle *Fero*'s body with your pound.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
*Fero* leaves north riding a Domani razor.
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard >
*Fero* has arrived from the north, riding a |2|.Domani razor.
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard > k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
*Fero* leaves north riding a Domani razor.
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > n
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N S W ]
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A young and strong buck is here, munching some grass.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > *Fero* hacks your left hand.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
*Fero* hacks your left leg.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You tickle *Fero*'s left foot with your pound.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You barely pound *Fero*'s left foot.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
*Fero* leaves west riding a Domani razor.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > w
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > s
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: E S ]
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A cute brown deer eyes you nervously.
A raven is here flying around.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard > k h.human
k h.human
*someone* barely hacks your body.
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Circle of Darkness
[ obvious exits: N E S W U D ]
A lantern has been left here.
A revolting well bubbles with the blood of the sacrificed.
The News Board is mounted on the wall here.
A large slab of meat has been placed here. [2]
Maybe you should get on your feet first?
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
sc
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
You have 34(376) hit and 75(226) movement points.
You have scored 13221429 experience points and 12 quest points.
You need 1278571 exp to level and 18 qp to rank.
You have amassed 142 Turn points to date.
You have played 1 days and 13 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Inflicted Servant [Ghar'ghael 2] (Level 29).
You are standing.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Winded > *Fero* has arrived from the east, riding a |5|.Domani razor.
You barely pound *Fero*'s left arm.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Winded - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Winded - Fero: Critical > You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
Fero swiftly dodges a shivering tree's attempt to hit him.
A shivering tree joins a shivering tree's fight!
A shivering tree barely tickles Fero's right foot with its hit.
A shivering tree tickles Fero's left hand with its hit.
You tickle *Fero*'s body with your pound.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > bash
+
*Fero* leaves east riding a Domani razor.
=
They're not here anymore!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > sc
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
You have 43(376) hit and 64(226) movement points.
You have scored 13222254 experience points and 12 quest points.
You need 1277746 exp to level and 18 qp to rank.
You have amassed 142 Turn points to date.
You have played 1 days and 13 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Inflicted Servant [Ghar'ghael 2] (Level 29).
You are standing.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > zerk
e
k h.human
[change mood berserk]
Mood changed to: Berserk
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N S W ]
A cute brown deer eyes you nervously.
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A young and strong buck is here, munching some grass.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You tickle *Fero*'s body with your pound.
A brown deer leaves west.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > w
k h.human
*Fero* leaves south riding a Domani razor.
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A cute brown deer eyes you nervously.
A raven is here flying around.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > w
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > Alas, you cannot go that way...
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
sc
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > You have 43(376) hit and 60(226) movement points.
You have scored 13223169 experience points and 12 quest points.
You need 1276831 exp to level and 18 qp to rank.
You have amassed 142 Turn points to date.
You have played 1 days and 13 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Inflicted Servant [Ghar'ghael 2] (Level 29).
You are standing.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
s
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N E ]
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > e
k h.human
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N E W ]
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A sickly, skinny deer stands here in a daze.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > *Fero* hacks your body.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
*Fero* wipes his boots in your face!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical >
You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical >
You pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You tickle *Fero*'s body with your pound.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard - Fero: Critical > k h.human
*Fero* leaves north riding a Domani razor.
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard >
*Fero* has arrived from the north, riding a |2|.Domani razor.
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard > k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
k h.human
*Fero* leaves north riding a Domani razor.
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > n
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > k h.human
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: N S W ]
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A young and strong buck is here, munching some grass.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > *Fero* hacks your left hand.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You barely pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
*Fero* hacks your left leg.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You tickle *Fero*'s left foot with your pound.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You pound *Fero*'s body.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You barely pound *Fero*'s left foot.
*FERO* PANICS AND ATTEMPTS TO FLEE!
You do the best you can!
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > You do the best you can!
* HP:Critical MV:Weary - Fero: Critical > k h.human
*Fero* leaves west riding a Domani razor.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > They aren't here.
k h.human
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > w
k h.human
They aren't here.
* HP:Critical MV:Weary > s
Forested Borderlands
[ obvious exits: E S ]
*Fero* is standing here, riding a |1|.Domani razor.
A cute brown deer eyes you nervously.
A raven is here flying around.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
Warped, menacing trees shiver, boughs slowly enclosing around you.
* HP:Critical MV:Haggard > k h.human
k h.human
*someone* barely hacks your body.
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Circle of Darkness
[ obvious exits: N E S W U D ]
A lantern has been left here.
A revolting well bubbles with the blood of the sacrificed.
The News Board is mounted on the wall here.
A large slab of meat has been placed here. [2]
Maybe you should get on your feet first?
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
I dropped your weapon already, but there's no way you were warded...
If you are tickling with a heavy weapon either you are landing on freshly mended gauntlets, the other person is in Murgoz, or your weapon isn't warded.
If you are tickling with a heavy weapon either you are landing on freshly mended gauntlets, the other person is in Murgoz, or your weapon isn't warded.
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
lol, have been using clubs for a bit across alts. It is indeed a terrible weapon and isn't worth practicing. No idea why it got downed in the first place to even worse that it was before.
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
It seems to me that there are some clear winners and losers from the changes, and not sure they're great overall for encouraging positive PK:
Winners - full dodge masters, particularly those who run around dismounted a lot. Full kitted combo/masters, particularly those that always have uniques and herons/rares. Combo fades.
Losers - abs non-masters, particularly trolls. Maybe non-master sbladers?
From experience playing ABS, bash has become frustratingly inconsistent, and even when you do land there's a lot more parrying involved. This can be particularly challenging when you're playing at low numbers play times where you're not trying to factor PK into full group PK. Meanwhile rare combo/defence weapons, of which there are a huge amount in the game, basically give you ABS damage/bash, often with 250+ def in combo. Even regular combo weapons seem to bash and have not hugely different damage to ABS weapons. I'm not saying that rares versus abs weapons should directly equate given one is supposedly 'rare', but the frequency of an abser fighting a rare or unique wielding master is pretty high for the need to consider it.
Not really used them, but clubs in particular from the stats research seem to be pretty shoddy. Also switching some fun uniques to no-rent smob load stuff wasn't awesome, especially for ABS uniques, of which I think there are... maybe 1 at most that is active and rentable? 2 if you include Malf? Also abs rares versus defence rares are still a frustrating difference in terms of their benefit over and above base alternatives.
Whips are fine!
Winners - full dodge masters, particularly those who run around dismounted a lot. Full kitted combo/masters, particularly those that always have uniques and herons/rares. Combo fades.
Losers - abs non-masters, particularly trolls. Maybe non-master sbladers?
From experience playing ABS, bash has become frustratingly inconsistent, and even when you do land there's a lot more parrying involved. This can be particularly challenging when you're playing at low numbers play times where you're not trying to factor PK into full group PK. Meanwhile rare combo/defence weapons, of which there are a huge amount in the game, basically give you ABS damage/bash, often with 250+ def in combo. Even regular combo weapons seem to bash and have not hugely different damage to ABS weapons. I'm not saying that rares versus abs weapons should directly equate given one is supposedly 'rare', but the frequency of an abser fighting a rare or unique wielding master is pretty high for the need to consider it.
Not really used them, but clubs in particular from the stats research seem to be pretty shoddy. Also switching some fun uniques to no-rent smob load stuff wasn't awesome, especially for ABS uniques, of which I think there are... maybe 1 at most that is active and rentable? 2 if you include Malf? Also abs rares versus defence rares are still a frustrating difference in terms of their benefit over and above base alternatives.
Whips are fine!

Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Agreed 100%Petra wrote:It seems to me that there are some clear winners and losers from the changes, and not sure they're great overall for encouraging positive PK:
Winners - full dodge masters, particularly those who run around dismounted a lot. Full kitted combo/masters, particularly those that always have uniques and herons/rares. Combo fades.
Losers - abs non-masters, particularly trolls. Maybe non-master sbladers?
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Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Did anyone else feel like Malf damage got upped? It certainly seemed higher than I ever remember, and now we also have the fc hp cap. I haven't gotten to play enough variety to judge the other weapons.
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Agree with much of what Petra said.
That being said I've enjoyed playing 1h clubs as a master and on my nonmaster, damage is a tad on the low side, but I think that is the sacrifice you make to be able to bash dodge somewhat consistently.
I've really enjoyed playing fencing blades as well, the added ob to Foil makes it very much viable for nonmasters also. Though I think the whole problem with balancing weapons is that there are so many masters around now, so would probably be better if an overhaul of the whole postures/master damage system could be thought up. Other than that I'm pretty happy with the changes, perhaps tridents do need a slight boost in pb and maybe some more ob to clubs/axes
That being said I've enjoyed playing 1h clubs as a master and on my nonmaster, damage is a tad on the low side, but I think that is the sacrifice you make to be able to bash dodge somewhat consistently.
I've really enjoyed playing fencing blades as well, the added ob to Foil makes it very much viable for nonmasters also. Though I think the whole problem with balancing weapons is that there are so many masters around now, so would probably be better if an overhaul of the whole postures/master damage system could be thought up. Other than that I'm pretty happy with the changes, perhaps tridents do need a slight boost in pb and maybe some more ob to clubs/axes
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Cudgel already upped???
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong >
a
The Slopes of Shayol Ghul
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving west.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving west.
There are some tracks of a humanoid leaving north.
A warhorse is here, stamping his feet impatiently, being ridden by you.
*Nageer* is here, fighting the enormous worm.
The enormous worm is here, fighting Nageer.
b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong > [k nageer]
You pound *Nageer*'s head into bloody fragments!
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - the enormous worm: Scratched - Nageer: Beaten > *Nageer* pierces the
enormous worm's head very hard.
[k h.dark]
You do the best you can!
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - the enormous worm: Scratched - Nageer: Beaten >
[bash ]
*Nageer* panics, and attempts to flee!
j
-=
*Nageer* leaves north.
j
Cancelled.
[k nageer]
You pound *Nageer*'s left arm very hard.
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical >
[k nageer]
You do the best you can!
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > [k nageer]
You do the best you can!
b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical >
*Nageer* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
The enormous worm barely hits Nageer's body.
*Nageer* panics, and attempts to flee!
You pound *Nageer*'s right arm very hard.
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical >
[bash ]
-=
*Nageer* leaves east.
*Nageer* has arrived from the east.
+
j
*
j
j
*Cancelled.
[k nageer]
You pound *Nageer*'s left leg hard.
*Nageer* panics, and attempts to flee!
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > [k nageer]
You do the best you can!
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > [k nageer]
You do the best you can!
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > You pound *Nageer*'s body hard.
*Nageer* is incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.
The enormous worm hits Nageer's body hard.
*Nageer* is dead! R.I.P.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Nageer*'s death cry.
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong >
a
The Slopes of Shayol Ghul
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving west.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving west.
There are some tracks of a humanoid leaving north.
A warhorse is here, stamping his feet impatiently, being ridden by you.
*Nageer* is here, fighting the enormous worm.
The enormous worm is here, fighting Nageer.
b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong > [k nageer]
You pound *Nageer*'s head into bloody fragments!
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - the enormous worm: Scratched - Nageer: Beaten > *Nageer* pierces the
enormous worm's head very hard.
[k h.dark]
You do the best you can!
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - the enormous worm: Scratched - Nageer: Beaten >
[bash ]
*Nageer* panics, and attempts to flee!
j
-=
*Nageer* leaves north.
j
Cancelled.
[k nageer]
You pound *Nageer*'s left arm very hard.
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical >
[k nageer]
You do the best you can!
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > [k nageer]
You do the best you can!
b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical >
*Nageer* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
The enormous worm barely hits Nageer's body.
*Nageer* panics, and attempts to flee!
You pound *Nageer*'s right arm very hard.
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical >
[bash ]
-=
*Nageer* leaves east.
*Nageer* has arrived from the east.
+
j
*
j
j
*Cancelled.
[k nageer]
You pound *Nageer*'s left leg hard.
*Nageer* panics, and attempts to flee!
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > [k nageer]
You do the best you can!
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > [k nageer]
You do the best you can!
j
* R HP:Wounded MV:Strong - Nageer: Critical > You pound *Nageer*'s body hard.
*Nageer* is incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.
The enormous worm hits Nageer's body hard.
*Nageer* is dead! R.I.P.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Nageer*'s death cry.
Re: 2017 Weapons Overhaul: Feedback
Cudgel is not too bad and has reasonable defence. The ob on it is pretty low so I guess that's the tradeoff. Fencing blade disarm rate seems higher than I have ever seen before. Foil/Rapier disarm a lot recently and you can't hit winding brigs now with a 1h weapon without being disarmed at least once.
I like that its useable now for disarm but I would say the disarm rate could use a slight tweak down.
I like that its useable now for disarm but I would say the disarm rate could use a slight tweak down.