Channeler Salt Factory

[Jalagang]

Wait til poor Jagang logs on

So when Jalagang was on last night, I confused him with Jagang (I was wondering why he wasn't an DL anymore). Then I realized it was Jagang I remember.. and not this Jalagang fella.

Is Jagang still around??!

Who you calling fella, pal?!

[Vaen]

I'm more salty about the seeming downing of ABS weapons, up-ing of trinks, and the secret destruction of vial loads that are making my ABSers less fun to play currently! Looking for a census on active ABS trolls played by change-imms!

Amen! I was hoping ABS weapons would get stronger, not weaker, since it's generally the healthiest playstyle and helps keep the others in line. But for some reason the opposite is happening?

What's been downed for abs weapons? Serious question, because there don't seem to be very many all-around combo weapons anymore with the changes to lblades, but I haven't tested much and was considering just going abs on formerly combo/bash characters. Isn't max abs like 85% now or something and aren't there two 18+ lb axes, three 18+ lbs clubs, two 18 lb lblades plus heron greatswords now? Is re-equipping ABS still pretty easy? If anything, I feel like a lot of weapons were tweaked *upwards* and I had to actually switch from dodge to combo for the first time in like 7 years because everything seems to do ridiculous damage since I came back a month or so ago.

[Mangler]

In terms of ABS armour/kits, I think you can max out at 86 now? The reality is though I genuinely find it harder to find a full kit of Murgoz abs, the new top tier stuff, on my trolloc than I do to get a full combo kit with cuffs etc... on my human alts. That's not even taking into account the fact that trinkets don't decay and ABS does, with the individual pieces you often find in PK generally not being near pristine condition, and then decaying fairly rapidly over the course of say a week.

Weapons wise, and throwing in that vague caveat of 'seemingly', the recent changes 'seem' to have reduced the top tier abs choices. There used to be a couple of stand out choices I'd say - WSL for damagey/ob if you were a mounted human. Bronze axe for all round goodness. Mallet for great bash.

Rare wise you just don't see many of them floating around, even aside from the fact I think the maul isn't that great if you're not on a horse, and the new abs heron rare I've seen infrequently and I've not played it since they corrected the absurd initial weight.

The real elephant in that conversation is I think they 'balanced' abs weapons against dodge, while not really looking at the real problem which is combo. There are a massive array of high powered 'rare but not actually rare' defence weapons that people play with combo these days, meaning you have loads of people running around with 70+ abs, 250+ def and bashes and damages like an ABS weapon. The trink changes just mean there's even more def to add to it at the top end, when you look at things like clan trinks + silver medal change. Even the mid-top tier of defence I imagine you can probably get 230/240+ def, decent bash, and 70-72 abs.

Anyway we accidentally made this a balance discussion. Down with channelers! Roar etc...

[Kitiara]

Salt is for margaritas.

Im with Elyse, my 263hps looks even better now. *SIP*

[alima]

Fix dodge please

[gabriella]

I'm asking the same question as Taziar,

Now that this is happening, what's the go to homeland for channies? I went with a 16 18 14 for the better warrior prac, but I'm still going to loose hps.

What about my Illian alt that is loosing mad hps, still go for the borderland ones? Even though con won't effect hps, it'll still work with regen, and the 18 19 19 17 is still pretty awesome.

So what do you do? Isn't Borderlands still the best place to be? Unless you want that 18 dex?

And do we still get 3 free rerolls if we want to stay with the borderlands homeland?? That seems fair!

[Astolfo]

Wait til poor Jagang logs on

So when Jalagang was on last night, I confused him with Jagang (I was wondering why he wasn't an DL anymore). Then I realized it was Jagang I remember.. and not this Jalagang fella.

Is Jagang still around??!

Who you calling fella, pal?!

Whose not your buddy, guy?!?

[Treach]

Yea if I had a perfect stat borderland or illian I would just take the hp hit and keep the homeland.

[Sturm]

Yeah my tower fc is from illian, is a 15,18,19,18,15 with 306 hps at lvl 33. or was anyway. ill keep the homeland, and im only losing 26 hps, so its meh.

[Jestin]

Great change. Thanks imms for listening.

Pretty urgent in my opinion if possible to handle is the multiple channeler weaving issue, still definitely over the top.

Thanks again!