Pretty much. A lot of players are scripted now adays. Unfortunately.
There are ways to increase your chances of rebashing however. Counting for instance. Feel free to hit me up in game or message me so we can figure out when I can log on and I'll gladly walk anyone through the process.
You'll then owe me your soul, and you'll have to join the Winged Guard. Good day
Denied Bashes
Re: Denied Bashes
Just more proof that Wingers have no souls...
Re: Denied Bashes
Sometimes you can beat the trigger re-bash and sometimes you can't. Like stab and room-to-room chase triggers, it's not insurmountable, but it's just annoying as dung under certain circumstances.
It looks like you were stacking bashes. I think Theid sort of described it, but between being bashed and a stacked 'bash' command (or really, any stacked command while you're bashed) going off, there's an off "beat" where you can actually enter a command. If you get re-bashed despite hitting that beat perfectly (if you do), you might as well flee and re-engage to try again. Like Lykan said, people who can time bashes very well and have decent links can re-bash by hitting that beat ahead of you a couple of times. If you're fighting someone who is using a trigger, what they've done is timed their first bash to that off-beat and you're not likely to beat them because now link is a factor. You're better off trying to flee around, re-engaging, and re-timing in order to firetruck with their timer.
Just to be clear, I'm not 100% sure that's what Dixon is doing -- it looks like most of your bash commands are being entered after the first sitting round, which means they'd be stacked, which would make it easier to chain-bash you even without triggers. The difficulty of gauging timing from logs notwithstanding, it's generally more suspicious to me when somebody is entering the bash commands in the pulse immediately after the second round hits each time and still getting beaten non-stop.
It looks like you were stacking bashes. I think Theid sort of described it, but between being bashed and a stacked 'bash' command (or really, any stacked command while you're bashed) going off, there's an off "beat" where you can actually enter a command. If you get re-bashed despite hitting that beat perfectly (if you do), you might as well flee and re-engage to try again. Like Lykan said, people who can time bashes very well and have decent links can re-bash by hitting that beat ahead of you a couple of times. If you're fighting someone who is using a trigger, what they've done is timed their first bash to that off-beat and you're not likely to beat them because now link is a factor. You're better off trying to flee around, re-engaging, and re-timing in order to firetruck with their timer.
Just to be clear, I'm not 100% sure that's what Dixon is doing -- it looks like most of your bash commands are being entered after the first sitting round, which means they'd be stacked, which would make it easier to chain-bash you even without triggers. The difficulty of gauging timing from logs notwithstanding, it's generally more suspicious to me when somebody is entering the bash commands in the pulse immediately after the second round hits each time and still getting beaten non-stop.
Re: Denied Bashes
This is my view of things if anyone cares, Prob not.
In the Foothills
[ obvious exits: E W D ]
There are some bloody traces of a human leaving down.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving down.
A Tairen bloodstock stallion stands here, tail swaying with the breeze, being ridden by you.
*Blokhed* is standing here.
* R HP:Critical MV:Tiring >
b
[k dark]
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Critical MV:Tiring - Blokhed: Beaten > [bash ]
-=+**
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.
+=- -=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Battered >
q
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
[change mood brave]
Mood changed to: Brave
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
sc
HP:Beaten MP:Strong
You have scored 61382668 experience points and 602 quest points.
You need 2117332 exp to level and 398 qp to rank.
You have amassed 201 Turn points to date.
You have played 30 days and 4 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Dixon the Cavalryman [Shienaran Lancer 6] (Level 41).
You are fighting Blokhed.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
Jearith chats 'statting is addictive!'
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -=
You dodge a bash from *Blokhed* who loses his balance and falls!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You barely hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -
Curtis narrates 'sweet'
=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body hard.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
*Blokhed* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.
-=+**+=- -=
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
alias x k blokhed
Ok.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
q
[change mood brave]
Mood changed to: Brave
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s left leg hard.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg hard.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
*Blokhed* stares at the sky. <---yes keep doing things instead of hitting bash timer in lag :P
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical > [bash ]
-=+**+=-
*Blokhed* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.
-=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
Curtis narrates '-had-'
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s left hand.
*Blokhed* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
Oh, much better the second time around.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Blokhed*'s death cry.
In the Foothills
[ obvious exits: E W D ]
There are some bloody traces of a human leaving down.
There are some tracks of a ridden mount leaving down.
A Tairen bloodstock stallion stands here, tail swaying with the breeze, being ridden by you.
*Blokhed* is standing here.
* R HP:Critical MV:Tiring >
b
[k dark]
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Critical MV:Tiring - Blokhed: Beaten > [bash ]
-=+**
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.
+=- -=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Battered >
q
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
[change mood brave]
Mood changed to: Brave
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
sc
HP:Beaten MP:Strong
You have scored 61382668 experience points and 602 quest points.
You need 2117332 exp to level and 398 qp to rank.
You have amassed 201 Turn points to date.
You have played 30 days and 4 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Dixon the Cavalryman [Shienaran Lancer 6] (Level 41).
You are fighting Blokhed.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
Jearith chats 'statting is addictive!'
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -=
You dodge a bash from *Blokhed* who loses his balance and falls!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You barely hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -
Curtis narrates 'sweet'
=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body hard.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
b
[bash ]
-=+**+=- -=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Beaten >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
*Blokhed* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.
-=+**+=- -=
You hack *Blokhed*'s body.
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
alias x k blokhed
Ok.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
q
[change mood brave]
Mood changed to: Brave
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s left leg hard.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s right leg hard.
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
b
*Blokhed* stares at the sky. <---yes keep doing things instead of hitting bash timer in lag :P
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical > [bash ]
-=+**+=-
*Blokhed* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.
-=
Your bash at *Blokhed* sends him sprawling!
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
Curtis narrates '-had-'
* R HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Blokhed: Critical >
You hack *Blokhed*'s left hand.
*Blokhed* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
Oh, much better the second time around.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Blokhed*'s death cry.
Re: Denied Bashes
This is actually the first post in a good while ive seen in the AoW thats slightly educational. I like it
Re: Denied Bashes
I had a very similar experience a few weeks ago in a fight against a SS outside caemy w gate, I got out timed on 4-5 bashes in a row and the SS accused me of being an MC.
It was just a case of poor timing on my part, and after reading this thread I should have tried the flee and try again thing, but i guess that wasn't possible if you was zerk
Barabbas
It was just a case of poor timing on my part, and after reading this thread I should have tried the flee and try again thing, but i guess that wasn't possible if you was zerk
Barabbas
Re: Denied Bashes
With one bash and zerk, I could have hit him enough to flee(auto or otherwise).
Re: Denied Bashes
if your opponent have autowimpy on, kicking him will make him flee. doesnt even have to land