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Aeriusx
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Weapon Tier

Post by Aeriusx » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:42 am

So, I've been gone for a while. Came back to see there had been some weapon changes, and a cool new Wiki up showing most weapon stats. I wanted to see the data in a single location, sorted into tiers. So, using the Wiki, this is what I came up with for non-unique weapon tiers:

1h/2h Offense Weapons (damage > weight > ob)

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                                DMG        OB        PB       WT        HANDS
    God Tier
        tainted war maul        27±5.6     70        1        18.5      2
    
    Top Tier
        war maul                25±5.7     75        0        18        2
        heron greatsword        24±5       100       0        13        2
        bronze axe              24±4       77        0        18        2
        diamond-tipped lance    ?          80        0        18        1
        
    Mid Tier
        enormous axe            21±4       80        0        18        2
        gold-inlaid axe         21±4       88        0        17.5      2
        halberd                 21±4       75        30       17.5      2
        wickedly scythed        21±4       94        25       15.5      2        
        titanic axe             21±3.7     82        0        18.5      2
        spiked warhammer        21±3.7     68        0        18.2      2
        claymore                21±3.7     89        11       16        2
        
    Low Tier
        gargantuan              20±4.6     87        10       16.5      2
        silver mallet           20±4.5     72        0        18        2
        double axe              20±5       80        0        17        2
        grim axe                19±6       90        0        16.5      2
        colossal sword          18±5.5     83        8        17.5      2
        binnol                  18±4.5     80        0        15.5      2
        steel-shafted lance     18±3.8     75        0        16        1
1h Defense Weapons (damage > weight > ob > pb)

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                                DMG        OB        PB        WT       HANDS
    God Tier
        wicked knife axe        23±5       74        28        16       1
        heron long              23±5       90        35        15       1
        heron blade             23±5       90        35        15       1

    Top Tier
        partisan of ghealdan    18±4.5     80        32        13.5     1
        banded cudgel           18±4.5     76        23        13.5     1
        saw axe                 18±4.5     78        22        13       1
        dark serrated axe       18±4.5     73        19        13       1
        
    Mid Tier
        finely axe              21±4       86        14        7.5      1
        dark barbed             21±4       65        7         6.4      1
        oddly curved long       18±4       80        28        12.5     1
        brass hilted            18±3.5     83        23        13       1
        tarnished shortsword    18±4       72        35        6        1
        
    Low Tier
        flanged mace            16±4       72        25        12.5     1
        silver plated           16±4       76        29        12       1
        falcata                 16±4       74        32        11       1
        bronze scourge          16±4       72        18        13.5     1
        pale long sword         16±4       79        35        10.5     1
        tulwar                  16±4       89        28        6        1
        blue scimitar           15±5       72        34        10       1
        mahogany spear          15±4.5     78        30        10.7     1
        winged spear            15±3       78        19        10       1
        bone club               15±3       74        20        16.5     1
        ring-quilloned          15±3       75        32        7        1

2h Defense Weapons (damage > weight > ob > pb)

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                                DMG        OB        PB        WT        HANDS
    God Tier
    
    Top Tier
        oddly curved great      21±4       80        85        16.5      2
        shocklance              20±4.5     85        95        5         2
        
    Mid Tier
        leatherleaf             18±3.8     68        93        15        2
        bladed feather          18±3.8     84        85        11        2
        barbed trident          18±3.5     78        80        14.5      2
        two-handed broad        18±2.5     75        78        12.5      2
        scimitar twisted        17±3       72        82        13.5      2
        
    Low Tier
        jagged sword            16±4       83        75        14        2
        blue trident            15±4.5     75        84        15        2
        ivory gold-hilted       15±3       78        90        11.5      2
        blue tasseled spear     15±3       79        82        10        2
        gold-chased spear       14±4       77        78        11.2      2
        honed light metal       18±4.5     70        63        8         2
        sungwood                15±4.5     75        95        5         2
        jade partisan           14±5       85        96        5         2
1h Defense Attack Weapons (damage > ob > pb)

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                                DMG        OB        PB        WT        HANDS
    God Tier
        triple bladed           14±4       87        9         2         1
    
    Top Tier
        emerald foil            13±2.5     84        24        2         1
        long pine               13±2.5     75        35        5         1
    
    Mid Tier
        green jade              12±3.5     87        8         1.5       1
        red stone               12±3.5     80        15        2         1
        ruby rapier             12±2.8     85        23        2.5       1
        curved clear            12±2.8     81        21        0.8       1
        jeweled                 12±2       83        8         0.5       1
        
    Low Tier
        kris                    11±4       90        2         2         1
        pearl epee              11±3       82        22        2         1

2h Defense Attack Weapons (damage > ob > pb)

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                                DMG        OB        PB        WT        HANDS
                            
    God Tier
        
    Top Tier
        steel sai               15±4       80        75        4         2
        moonstone dirks         14±2       85        70        4         2
    
    Mid Tier
    
    Low Tier

I was just curious about how everything falls in place nowadays. I'm surprised to see barbed trident is better than the blue trident, but a leatherleaf staff trumps a barbed trident. And jagged sword is overshadowed by twisted scimitar. Medium blades don't look favorable at all, all stats are lackluster. Spiked trumps mallet, and claymore beats gsword?? Long pine javelin looks actually pretty viable with the buffs to the OB. Looking at its neighbors, I'm surprised to see partisan of ghealdan fits in as pretty much just another weapon, although its considered a rare; only 10 ob, miniscule db and 0.5 weight separates it from the latest updated 1h saw axe. The stats for jade partisan? I feel like they could be wrong, those stats are pretty funny for a rare (I know its listed as a unique, but weren't there two in-game? I don't think we can call it a unique in that case!). Nevertheless, I want to get my hands on a couple of those new steel sai and try it out melee, that damage ratio looks insane. Comparatively speaking, damage-wise, it's like a blue tasseled spear with attack.

Though, probably shouldn't be up at 3:30am doing crap like this, when I gotta wake up at 7am for work. :? Sigh.

Aeriusx
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Re: Weapon Tier

Post by Aeriusx » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:46 am

Also, it seems emerald foil beats ruby rapier, damage-wise. For years I had always been confused on that one, constantly swapping them out to figure out which one "felt" right. But they both seemed the same... Also, 13 lbs on heron greatsword...? Ouch.

Whoever released this interesting information, you rock! :D

Hope
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Re: Weapon Tier

Post by Hope » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:43 am

Steel sai doesn't attack or stab. It's a 2h slashing dagger that is basically useless, and is way to heavy to use as a butchering dagger.

Aeriusx
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Re: Weapon Tier

Post by Aeriusx » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:45 am

Hope wrote:Steel sai doesn't attack or stab. It's a 2h slashing dagger that is basically useless, and is way to heavy to use as a butchering dagger.
Aww damn it... That's sad beans right there. Oh well.

Treach
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Re: Weapon Tier

Post by Treach » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:45 am

How do you get those dmg figures from the dice roll figures in the wiki?


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