How to test weapons (and list of re-tested weapons)

[Thuvia]

With the newly announced changes to a number of weapons, I'm going to be focusing on retesting to keep the EQ Trainer and Wiki up to date.

I already have a couple of volunteers who are helping out, and for anyone else who would like to contribute, I'd like to offer a primer on how to test and submit data to me if you wish.

To start with, I need the following information:

1. Race, Lvl, Str, Dex, Con
2. Prac% for weapon and shield parry if using one - for both, the higher the prac% the better
3. Specify posture if a Master, ride level if riding, H/H status of weapon, total weight
5. The weapon's weight, whether it is 1-handed, 2-handed, or 1/2-handed (some may have changed).
6. If you're feeling generous, you can include things like rent cost, item value (how much it sells for in rent), keywords, and ground description, though these are secondary concerns for now.

For less ambiguity, have all items either worn or in worn packs, then take stats in all 4 moods with no weapon wielded.
Then wield it and take stats in all 4 moods again.

I've got a spreadsheet set up that I use to derive the weapon stats from that, so just send me the raw stat command output for those 8 things for each weapon.

Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you in advance for any help offered.

[Thuvia]

List of weapons that have been re-tested so far:

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Tester  Item                                            Changes
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*Short blades*
Elyse   a pair of three-pronged daggers                 New item

*Projectiles*
Taziar  a throwing spike                                Stats unchanged, condition upped by unknown amount
Taziar  a sharpened metal disk                          OB: 60-70
-all other projectiles tested, stats unchanged

*Long blades*
Elyse   a scimitar with a hilt of twisted iron          OB: 78-72
                                                        Name changed from
                                                        'a half-moon scimitar with a hilt of twisted iron'
Elyse   a jagged edged warsword                         No change
Kerryk  an ivory and gold-hilted longsword              No change
Elyse   a brass-hilted general's sword                  OB: 76-80, PB: 25-20
Kerryk  an oddly curved longsword                       OB: 77-78, PB: 28-23
Elyse   a pale steel longsword                          No change
Thuvia  a colossal sword with an iron pommel            Name change from
                                                        'a colossal sword with an ornate iron pommel'

*Medium blades*
Elyse   a blue steel scimitar with silver-wrapped hilt  OB: 73-72, PB: 28-34, Weight: 11.0-10.0 lbs
Thuvia  a bone-handled blade                            OB: 76-74, PB: 31-33, Weight: 8.0-4.0 lbs
Elyse   a plain, slightly curved blade                  OB: 71-68, PB: 35-37
Thuvia  a razored falcata                               OB: 77-74, PB: 29-32
Thuvia  a ring quilloned sword                          No change
Elyse   a shining silver plated sword                   OB: 78-76, PB: 27-29
Elyse   an amber hilted iron sword                      OB: 74-72, PB: 33-35, Weight: 4.0-6.0 lbs

*Fencing blades*
Elyse   an opal adorned steel tulwar                    PB: 26-28
Elyse   an emerald-hilted foil                          PB: 18-20, Weight: 4.0-2.0 lbs
Elyse   a ruby-worked rapier                            PB: 20-23, Weight: 3.0-2.5 lbs
Elyse   a pearl-handled epee                            PB: 21-22, Weight: 4.0-2.0 lbs

*Axes*
Thuvia  an enormous double-bladed battleaxe             Weight: 17.8-18.0 lbs
Thuvia  a saw-toothed axe                               OB: 78-76, PB: 4-22, Weight: 16.0-12.0 lbs
                                                        Changed from 2-handed to 1/2-handed
                                                        Name changed from 'a savage saw-toothed axe'
Thuvia  a double axe with a long black haft             Name changed from 
                                                        'a blood-splattered double axe with a long black haft'

*Clubs*
Thuvia  a spiked double handed warhammer                OB: 65-68
Thuvia  a silver-banded war mallet                      OB: 70-72

*Staves*
Amarie  a leatherleaf staff                             OB: 60-65, PB: 90-93, Weight: 10.0-15.0 lbs
Thuvia  an ironshod staff of oak                        PB: 74-80

*Spears*
Thuvia  a sleek, mahogany-shafted spear                 OB: 71-75

*Javelins*
Elyse   a long pine javelin                             OB: 60-70, Weight: 4.0-5.0 lbs
Elyse   a light metal javelin                           OB: 42-65, PB: 32-25

*Polearms*
Eol     a barbed steel trident                          OB: 80-78, PB: 79-80, Weight: 14.0-13.5 lbs
Thuvia  a blue steel trident                            OB: 74-75, PB: 72-84
Thuvia  a heavy gilded glaive                           PB: 65-68

[Elyse]

Giving this a bump since it's a really good project and easy if lots of people lend a hand. Thuvia's trainers and databases are remarkably helpful, but they aren't nearly as useful when the underlying weapon data is obsolete! So please, if you are using a weapon that may have been changed, and isn't listed as already tested, do the quick test detailed above and send Thuvia the information!

[Thore]

I should contribute to this… but may I suggest a "patchnote" type update to stats where we see the delta between stats since the last known info? Would be very helpful, I think.

[Thuvia]

Thore,

I'm doing this on the wiki currently. Did you also mean something like that for the eq trainer?

[Thore]

Hmm, I looked for this yesterday and didn't find anything. Which pages is that on or could you put up a link? Thanks Thuvia.

[Thuvia]

I've been doing it at the bottom of each individual weapon's page, so for instance look at the 'a saw-toothed axe' page there for an example.

If instead you mean something like a summary page somewhere on the wiki showing the changes like I do in the second post on this page, I suppose that would be possible too. Let me know if that's what you have in mind and I'll see what I can do.

[Thuvia]

With a few exceptions (see the EQ Trainer post), most weapons that were changed have now been tested and both the Wiki and EQ Trainer updated.