EXPLAINED: Item sold to blacksmith is not for sale!

[Mikhan]

And also, I think he should probably give more than sixteen gcs...



Halk narrates 'i beat coming back'

o S HP:Beaten MV:Weary > i
You are carrying:
[2] a water skin
a heron mark blade
a pair of thick metal boots
a rimmed round helmet
a tunic of finely-crafted chain
a dress with colored bands at the hem
a backpack
a pair of riveted chainmail sleeves
a sturdy pair of full leather gauntlets
a silver etched shield
an amber hilted iron sword
a brightly-colored sash
a set of riveted chainmail leggings
a pair of animal-fur boots
[5] a stable ticket

o S HP:Beaten MV:Weary > st
n
You stop resting, and stand up.

n
o S HP:Beaten MV:Weary > n
The Courtyard
The view here is amazing. To the east and slightly south east lie the twin
keeps which tower above everything. From here the vastness of the destuction
of the entire castle can be seen in its entirety. The roofs of both keeps
have collapsed in on themselves totally destroying the upper levels of both
keeps. Also most of the walls that used to provide excellent protection
against attack have nearly crumbled to nothing. A putrid smell of decay can
be sensed coming from the west, and a well lies to the south. The courtyard
extends in all directions from here.
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]

o S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > The Blacksmith's Workshop
In the center of the room there is a large anvil which was obviously used
by the blacksmith who worked here to pound at iron and form various
types of iron works. In the northern wall lies the pit where the metal
was fired to get it white hot. Against the west wall there are the remnants
of a shelf that was once used to hold the blacksmiths various tools. In the
righthand corner of the roof there is a large hole that allows the sun to
shine in and light the entire place. An exit lies to the south which
goes back into the courtyard.
[ obvious exits: S U ]
You notice a lantern is hidden here.
You notice a lantern is hidden here.
You notice a mirrored lantern is hidden here.
A fade emerges from the shadows as you pass by.
A fade emerges from the shadows as you pass by.
A large, goat-faced trolloc glares at you hungrily.
A large, goat-faced trolloc glares at you hungrily.
A large, goat-faced trolloc glares at you hungrily.
A large, goat-faced trolloc glares at you hungrily.
A tall barrel-chested blacksmith stands here staring absently into space.

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > i
Alas, you cannot go that way...

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > You are carrying:
[2] a water skin
a heron mark blade
a pair of thick metal boots
a rimmed round helmet
a tunic of finely-crafted chain
a dress with colored bands at the hem
a backpack
a pair of riveted chainmail sleeves
a sturdy pair of full leather gauntlets
a silver etched shield
an amber hilted iron sword
a brightly-colored sash
a set of riveted chainmail leggings
a pair of animal-fur boots
[5] a stable ticket

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > sel dress
A blacksmith tells you 'Thanks for the item.'
The shopkeeper now has a dress with colored bands at the hem.

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard >
Troika narrates 'is my fault i never grouped myzec'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > sel sword
A blacksmith tells you 'Thanks for the item.'
The shopkeeper now has a heron mark blade.

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > 'firetruck
You say 'firetruck'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > buy heron
A blacksmith tells you 'I don't have it.'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar firetruck
You narrate 'firetruck'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > pray is anyone up there?
You pray 'is anyone up there?'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar i just sold the heron to the shopkeeper somehow
You narrate 'i just sold the heron to the shopkeeper somehow'

list
* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > You can buy:
A dress with colored bands at the hem for 18 gold crowns and 19 coppers.
A pair of ebony-steel plate greaves for 189 gold crowns and 19 coppers.
A dagger for 1 gold crown and 2 coppers.
A sharp pointed dart for 1 gold crown and 14 coppers.
A hooked spear for 3 gold crowns and 15 coppers.
A sleek hunting spear for 3 gold crowns and 15 coppers.
A long length of metal chain for 9 coppers.
An iron morning star for 1 gold crown and 17 coppers.
A basket-hilted longblade for 18 coppers.
A kris-edged flamberge for 2 gold crowns and 16 coppers.
A rapier for 7 gold crowns and 11 coppers.
A stiletto for 1 gold crown and 17 coppers.
A nasty spiked club for 9 coppers.
A long-handled war axe for 2 gold crowns and 7 coppers.
A long poleaxe for 9 gold crowns and 9 coppers.
A blackwood quarterstaff for 4 gold crowns and 14 coppers.
A spiked flail for 4 gold crowns and 14 coppers.
A steel-shafted lance for 52 gold crowns and 4 coppers.

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar and he doesn't have it for sale
You narrate 'and he doesn't have it for sale'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard >
Troika narrates 'no u didnt?'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard >
Tempest narrates 'hehe'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard >
Halk narrates 'hehe'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar i'm dead serious
You narrate 'i'm dead serious'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar i was trying to sell this amber hilted
Halk narrates 'awesome'
You narrate 'i was trying to sell this amber hilted'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar did sell sword

Troika narrates 'how the firetruck?'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > You narrate 'did sell sword'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard >
Troika narrates 'you idiot'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar The shopkeeper now has a heron mark blade.
Halk narrates 'best news all day'
You narrate 'The shopkeeper now has a heron mark blade.'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar i'm praying
You narrate 'i'm praying'

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > nar A blacksmith tells you 'Thanks for the item.'
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.
You narrate 'A blacksmith tells you 'Thanks for the item.''

* S HP:Beaten MV:Weary > r
not
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

* S HP:Beaten MV:Weary > i
You start paying increased attention to your surroundings.

* S HP:Beaten MV:Weary > You are carrying:
sixteen gold crowns
[2] a water skin
a pair of thick metal boots
a rimmed round helmet
a tunic of finely-crafted chain
a backpack
a pair of riveted chainmail sleeves
a sturdy pair of full leather gauntlets
a silver etched shield
an amber hilted iron sword
a brightly-colored sash
a set of riveted chainmail leggings
a pair of animal-fur boots
[5] a stable ticket

[Eol]

Condolences. Ouch.

It would be nice if anything that was sold to a store was then for sale from the store. I suspect an Imm may share a reason with us why this is not the case. If the issue is one of space - perhaps the inventory of stores (ie. the junk items they start with) could be decreased?

[Spyder]

10/10

* S HP:Beaten MV:Haggard > buy heron
A blacksmith tells you 'I don't have it.'

He's a savvy business owner, knows a good deal!

[Elysia]

Condolences. Ouch.

It would be nice if anything that was sold to a store was then for sale from the store. I suspect an Imm may share a reason with us why this is not the case. If the issue is one of space - perhaps the inventory of stores (ie. the junk items they start with) could be decreased?

Because that's the way it's coded, so it's not a bug.

No idea why sometimes an item is sold by a shop afterwards, and sometimes it isn't. I haven't discovered a rhyme or reason to it and I don't expect it will be changed any time soon.

In this case: sounds like a good way to remove items from the game!

[Mantorok]

Full inventory so he can't actually hold it after something is sold to him? Just a guess.

[Irate]

Another player dissed by an unforgiving, unexplainable, unfixable system. The guy had a heron. If it was a pk rip,a DT, hitting his own clan head mob, that'd be one thing. Most of those have the heron stay in game (minus incinerate, DT, and drowning). I

tems sold to a shopkeeper should be repurchasable however expensive.

Saying 'oh well' to the guy for mistakenly selling the wrong sword and not able to regain isn't a great story to pass on to new comers.

"There are ways in the game that you'll royally get screwed over without warning or understanding, so FOFY and get sad/mad today at WoTmud"

[Zeeb]

pretty sure you can get it back by killing him...

[Kilgore]

Another player dissed by an unforgiving, unexplainable, unfixable system. The guy had a heron. If it was a pk rip,a DT, hitting his own clan head mob, that'd be one thing. Most of those have the heron stay in game (minus incinerate, DT, and drowning). I

tems sold to a shopkeeper should be repurchasable however expensive.

Saying 'oh well' to the guy for mistakenly selling the wrong sword and not able to regain isn't a great story to pass on to new comers.

"There are ways in the game that you'll royally get screwed over without warning or understanding, so FOFY and get sad/mad today at WoTmud"

I mean, sure. This happened. He also used the specific 'sell sword' and checked his inventory immediately before doing so. You can just as easily type 'value sword' to find out if it is a solid thing to sell.

I guess I am sort of curious how much gold you got for it. If you got 16 crowns for it, I can see the argument there that maybe it was an oversight and a heron should be worth more than 16 crowns.

[Kerryk]

I mean, sure. This happened. He also used the specific 'sell sword' and checked his inventory immediately before doing so. You can just as easily type 'value sword' to find out if it is a solid thing to sell.

I guess I am sort of curious how much gold you got for it. If you got 16 crowns for it, I can see the argument there that maybe it was a bug and a heron should be worth more than 16 crowns.

Agreed, value on heron should be higher than any shop owner has gcs to purchase it. That is the bug if anything.

[Elysia]

Figured it out! If a shop deals in "medium blades" and it buys a medium blade, it will then sell it. My educated suspicion is that if it had been a heron long, it would've have been for sale after. Unfortunately I don't think there's a way for players to see what a shop deals in.

Shops can't be flagged to deal in -all- varieties of items, so it's always a choice, which is also influenced by what it should be able to mend. E.g. armor, shields etc. So, still not a bug.

As for its price, my guess is that it's still the price that was set around 1998 or whenever this item was made. As a warning, it's not the only high end item that has a far lower price than one would expect. Item pricing/balance is not something we routinely look at either and even if we did, every time we tinkered with weapons it was expressly forbidden to even think about adjusting rares, so it wouldn't have been picked up on either. It is what it is.