Defender/attacker balance in clan rooms

[Kryyg]

There are so many safe areas on this game and areas where only a full group or solo Jestin would even attempt a hit. A tiny bit of effort will get you to these areas. I’m not in favor of anything with no quit checks during PK. I’m not against back exits or additional egress modes for both sides in clan areas. Or make purchasing guards part of the clan coffer system - to a limit.

It’s crazy, we are at a time when we probably have the highest percentage of experienced players and we are trying to make it safer and easier because of a few whiners and dunces.

What an absolutely shallow and stupid response. In a time where we are trying to increase player numbers and helping new players grow (and having some limited success in doing so), along comes a veteran player that goes 'Yes, let's call players (with possibly legit concerns) whiners and dunces.' Way to foster a welcoming environment. What a chortlesnorfling tool you are.

Back to the thread:

- Agree that there should not be any 100% safe zones in game.
- Clan zones should be massively stacked in favour of the clan member if they can enter it and an enemy is somehow able to get in (noquit checks on clan doors is... okay).
- Enemies shouldnt just be able to waltz out
- Agree 110% with Sarryn said

This thread stems from the Roberto log. Which happens so infrequently that no changes were really needed. Additionally, so many things in that log were intentional on Roberto’s part in putting himself in danger.

I’m sorry you’re a dunce and don’t realize how the game and PK works. The one log and rare instances this situation happens merits no changes outside of some things I recommended. You guys are making a big deal out of nothing and now no quit changes are actually causing more irritation than this problem (in my veteran experience). Is Glynn and Roberto new people we are trying to retain? I don’t even understand your comment. firetrucking bads shouldn’t be allowed to post. I bet you moved from Seanchan side to FC. Smooth transition.

[langois]

There are so many safe areas on this game and areas where only a full group or solo Jestin would even attempt a hit. A tiny bit of effort will get you to these areas. I’m not in favor of anything with no quit checks during PK. I’m not against back exits or additional egress modes for both sides in clan areas. Or make purchasing guards part of the clan coffer system - to a limit.

It’s crazy, we are at a time when we probably have the highest percentage of experienced players and we are trying to make it safer and easier because of a few whiners and dunces.

What an absolutely shallow and stupid response. In a time where we are trying to increase player numbers and helping new players grow (and having some limited success in doing so), along comes a veteran player that goes 'Yes, let's call players (with possibly legit concerns) whiners and dunces.' Way to foster a welcoming environment. What a chortlesnorfling tool you are.

Back to the thread:

- Agree that there should not be any 100% safe zones in game.
- Clan zones should be massively stacked in favour of the clan member if they can enter it and an enemy is somehow able to get in (noquit checks on clan doors is... okay).
- Enemies shouldnt just be able to waltz out
- Agree 110% with Sarryn said

This thread stems from the Roberto log. Which happens so infrequently that no changes were really needed. Additionally, so many things in that log were intentional on Roberto’s part in putting himself in danger.

I’m sorry you’re a dunce and don’t realize how the game and PK works. The one log and rare instances this situation happens merits no changes outside of some things I recommended. You guys are making a big deal out of nothing and now no quit changes are actually causing more irritation than this problem (in my veteran experience). Is Glynn and Roberto new people we are trying to retain? I don’t even understand your comment. chortlesnorfling bads shouldn’t be allowed to post. I bet you moved from Seanchan side to FC. Smooth transition.

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[erulak]

[Mronz]

I'd think this is a non-issue. Simply let each clan choose what style entrance they want.

A We love pk, and we want our clan base to be a PKable area, fine.
B: We have no desire to have PK in our clan base, make it safe, Fine.

This idea that no place on the entire game should be safe, I've always found laughable.
I can't vouch for other sides, but on SS, raken base, completely safe, barring someone locating/traveling to reach it. Any rank8, that says no place should be safe, ironic, since they have a 100% safe rank8 house.

So often, people want to force their play style upon others, to the point, that this belief exists, that since some people think there should be no safe zones, except for if you earn it, rank8, then therefore its ok, that everyone else who would like a couple options, to be able to be on the game, and not be at risk of dieing is frowned upon.

Just thoughts from someone that doesn't really mud anylonger.

[isabel]

I'd think this is a non-issue. Simply let each clan choose what style entrance they want.

A We love pk, and we want our clan base to be a PKable area, fine.
B: We have no desire to have PK in our clan base, make it safe, Fine.

This idea that no place on the entire game should be safe, I've always found laughable.
I can't vouch for other sides, but on SS, raken base, completely safe, barring someone locating/traveling to reach it. Any rank8, that says no place should be safe, ironic, since they have a 100% safe rank8 house.

So often, people want to force their play style upon others, to the point, that this belief exists, that since some people think there should be no safe zones, except for if you earn it, rank8, then therefore its ok, that everyone else who would like a couple options, to be able to be on the game, and not be at risk of dieing is frowned upon.

Just thoughts from someone that doesn't really mud anylonger.

Love this. Only thing is I see imms thinking in a diff direction

[Skirrel]

FWIW, the Thiefbane clanrooms appear to have been changed since the bulk of this discussion. I just got stuck in there with no way out and lost a full set. Tried to activate the mobol door with a bunch of stuff and it didn't open... then Roberto opened it, Erehwon came in and manually shut the door, then mobol locked it again.

[Feneon]

Checked on it and looked at the log. It didn't change, person in the log didn't understand how to use it either, so someone on DS told them how to use it. I've added 'exit to it. At the very least, the requirement for exitting a clan room shouldn't be cross-race information transfers. Sorry that knock didn't work, 'exit will work in the future if this situation repeats.


"
Gnarbage tells you 'knock archway at ent to get out'
It seems to be locked.

* S HP:Wounded MV:Full >
Entrance Room
Formerly belonging to Governor Adan, this small cozy house is now on lease
to the group known as the Thiefbane. Bright lanterns hanging from the eastern
and western walls illuminate this small entrance. A long hallway extends
to the north, leading further into the building.
[ obvious exits: N S ]
Zone: Baerlon
Door south: archway
A thick, leather backpack lies abandoned here.
A warhorse is here, stamping his feet impatiently.
A treasurer stands here, managing the clan coffers.
An armorer works here, quick hands meticulously mending equipment.
Staring down her nose a scribe performs her duties here.

* S HP:Wounded MV:Full >
say
g
Yes, but WHAT do you want to say?

* S HP:Wounded MV:Full >
[k h.light]
They aren't here.

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* S HP:Wounded MV:Full >
Entrance Room
Formerly belonging to Governor Adan, this small cozy house is now on lease
to the group known as the Thiefbane. Bright lanterns hanging from the eastern
and western walls illuminate this small entrance. A long hallway extends
to the north, leading further into the building.
[ obvious exits: N S ]
Zone: Baerlon
Door south: archway
A thick, leather backpack lies abandoned here.
A warhorse is here, stamping his feet impatiently.
A treasurer stands here, managing the clan coffers.
An armorer works here, quick hands meticulously mending equipment.
Staring down her nose a scribe performs her duties here.
Hodor narrates 'cannot'

* S HP:Wounded MV:Full >
kds
knock archway s
5
where
6
Ok.
"


Additional pieces of mobol are in the room which catch a fair amount of vowels which may have looked like something was triggering, but it was just catching commands related to the garden.