Weapons Crafting

[Loomis]

Hello team. Let me preface by saying that this is not meant to be a very fine person, gender being but a construct of society fest. It is for constructive feedback. First off, I love the idea. Thanks to the imms for implementing a use for TPs. Now, for us lazy trollocs(or those who would find it difficult to get the ingreds). Is it possible to pay a premium for these weapons in order to bypass the gathering of such things as moonstone discs(ants?) and the lot? For example, if human or trolloc "A" wishes to collect all the items, then he pays 7 tokens and items. Human or trolloc "B" would instead decided to pay 1 silver token (3 tokens more), but no ingredients for the same item.

Would this be possible? Or possible to make ingredients load on some more northern smobs? Discuss?


I know it has not been 30 days, so if this is just going to turn into a shitstorm, please delete. Also, if im just being lazy, just tell me to go fly a kite

[Melayna]

Tbh think its good that some of the stuff needs you to put some time into getting so its not just a rare for x tps, unless you make it significantly more than it currently is. But yeah nice to have something to do with TPs for those of us who don't put too much stock into em - might even encourage people to PK more if they're short a token and need those last 50 tps to make a trident or w/e

[Vampa]

Go fly a kite.

Once the dark side crafters are added, in Dark Fortress, we can look at either adjusting the costs appropriately or (more likely) adding sources of items in dark territory.

[Florry]

I do wish some if the angreals loaded a tad bit more frequently. Hit a smob 30 times for (1) angreal.

Also, I want this trader as a KMG mob! The guys trading angreals and gettin' away with it!

[Palaemon]

I recommend IoMM for most of your angreal needs. Equally if not more accessible to darkside. The staff requires less crafting tokens because the globe is harder to obtain, but we may look at increasing the availability slightly as I agree they are quite a pain to obtain, though I’ve managed to get four staves so far on my alts mostly through trading for the angreal.

Keep in mind these items are not intended to be common or easy to get.

For the record the disc loads on three different soloable smobs

[Razhak]

Afaik alot of the angreal needed, load on smobs most easily hit by humans, or either deep in LS territory.

I agree with the sentinment of it being hard(ish), but as it stands, this will most likely incite x-race transferring of items to get these weapons made. Adding DS crafter will not change this, unless DS crafters will ask for other items?

Perhaps a look at where some of the items load (switch loads around to central/northern smobs as well as iomm/south smobs) would be in order.

Kind regards,

Razhak

[Florry]

For the record the disc loads on three different soloable smobs

Looks like the wiki isn't updated well enough then.

Time to give hunting for information.

[granit]

*hands Jaster the popcorn*... give em like .. a week and we'll just start repo'ing errthang up in here Skipping line is cool!

[Elyse]

My biggest worry is that making angreal directly useful in crafting makes tower rp particularly awkward. If we are going to be held to the bookish "all angreal are tower property" position, which has been the case as long as I've played, we're going to end up with either a lot of unhappy situations or a lot of willful abandonment of the rp.

The obvious case is that it looks pretty bad for an aes sedai to be giving tower property to a craftsman to melt down for her own personal benefit. But if that were the only issue, it wouldn't be a big problem. I can't make weapons in a crafting guild due to the second oath; I can handle being shut out of this too.

But think about what I suspect will be a common situation: A smob group wants to craft some new weapons, and needs to smob up an angreal. They ask an aes sedai to help (and indeed, just today, I was asked to help hit IoMM). The trip is successful, and we pull an angreal useful for crafting. Now what. If I'm keeping to my rp, I have to demand the angreal. This used to be less of an issue. No one but a channeler could make direct use of them, and if people think I'm just qp grubbing, I can always turn it in to a non-awarding mob. But now that angreal are directly useful to hunters, rogues, etc., and not just as black market trade goods or something to "drop" for a channeler friend, this is much more of a feel-bad situation for all concerned. I don't want to stop my smob buddies from getting what they need to craft things, but I also don't want to just look the other way with respect to my obligations as an aes sedai.

I have lesser worries about a surge in cross race transfer of tokens and crafting items, and potentially an undesirable surge in angreal loads if we start adjusting smobs to make this crafting more accessable, but the rp issue is the biggest frustration to me. Isn't there something else rareish besides angreal that could be used here?

Or are we willing to just jettison this part of tower rp, and start the fiesta of aes sedai openly bargaining and bartering with angreal, and encouraging the same in others? Maybe that's the best option, if we continue on this route, but it would leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth.

[exyle]

How does ds Get bars of iron?