PK Behavior

[Equitant]

Hi Erynn!! We miss you!

[Aishana]

*Spyder* is here, fighting Benito, riding a shadow stallion.
Annabelle the Tower Accepted is sitting here, riding a |1|.gray palfrey.
Alison the Tower Accepted is sitting here, riding a |2|.warhorse.
Bianca the Tower Accepted is here, fighting Rig, riding a warhorse.
|3|.A Tairen bloodstock stallion stands here, tail swaying with the breeze, being ridden by you.
Lord Benito del Toro is here, fighting Rig, riding a warhorse.
Ekko of Two Rivers is here, fighting Mardroz mending a weapon, riding a warhorse.
*Ningishzidda* is here, fighting Alison.
*Arkan* is here, fighting YOU!
*Mardroz* is here, fighting Ekko.
A ramshorned trolloc is here, fighting Bianca.
*Sazi* is here, fighting Annabelle, riding a shadow stallion.
A Dha'vol trolloc is here, fighting Ekko.
*Rig* is sitting here, riding a |1|.shadow stallion



I mean in a channelable room sure we could fight this, but you essentially just have a bunch of 15 18 14 rogues here with 2 half eq'd hunters...we lose this badly. As disorganized as ls is particularly this group theres no way ls regroups somewhere quickly enough after we got low and ds chases. Besides which like 3 of us were tired of pk bc there was like 2 hours of it leading up to this. I was planning on going in before this fight even happened and wasn't interested in chasing you guys blight even if we did somehow win this. If you guys had gone camp or something you could have made this work.

[Rig]

Question is, why didn't you guys go to a channelable room after losing there!

[Aishana]

We got split up and a couple of us needed to rent

[Lykan]

The last few pages of arguments illustrate the one of the larger issues and reason people get so upset in n pk: overwhelmingly, they only play one side with any degree of "success" and assume the other side/characters are more powerful than they are. That, combined with the fear-gauge of the average pker now being an average of "scared shitless once I hit wounded", just ends up with relatively equal groups hiding from one another and whining. Everyone wants others to take risks yet refuses to take any risks themselves; everyone only thinks of pk in terms of their position and pov rather than the comprehensive fight from both sides. The self-awareness points are really pretty spot-on. Yes, the question of whether you'd enjoy pking yourself is a great one but it loses all merit when you consider that the Ryalth's of the game (majority of pkers now) all think they are ballsier than Zarth.

Zeeb's comment actually nails the main mentality shift over the years, imo: somehow, the game has shifted from the goal of "kill your opponent" to "survive". Which is why people get so upset when the other side cowers and doesn't take risks. We assume people will say "oh look, two beat people at 3 mobs vs 5 of us hurt, nice! set blocks" but in reality, some dung-tier fade is screaming on globals "DONT HIT WE WILL ALL DIE THERE ARE 55 HUMANS WAITING TO GATE IN, I BET".

Its really pretty sad when you sit back and recognize the fact that if you have one half-decent leader on each side, you can virtually always generate decent back-and-forth pk. Yet 90% of pk sessions up north now are utterly ridiculous, consisting mainly of healthy fades with equal or superior groups hiding at patties or just going in, or LS tower groups running around and sniping people then running FD to talk about how scared DS is. In the end, it's probably our fault for not trying to make the newer age of leaders less-bad than they are, rather than just making fun of how terrible they are. In group pk, it always comes back to what the leader does; wotmud mostly stopped generating decent leaders 10 yrs ago.

Also, +1 to the afk/ld killing practices of Alaina :p Yes, you can whine we hold grudges, but when people make habits of killing people afk/ld repeatedly over years, yes we remember and hold it against them.

[krul]

I guess Ecthus wasn't trolling... I don't understand how it's perverse to ask people to be nicer maybe I haven't read enough Zizek.

There may be people who don't give good pk but there are also people who do! Focus on the good parts! I was on the other day and Aishana/Alison/Omri hid at Agel then gated to TV when it was just me in FD BUT later Zhai came and we pked crit together and he used small mobs around crossing and didn't camp at gates and that was fun! (As much as sblades can be fun, anyway.) Just gotta stay chill and pick your battles

Watching Rick and Morty and being semi-afk also helps.

[Rig]

just making fun of how terrible they are. In group pk, it always comes back to what the leader does

Probably would be a lot better if you didn't sit there and talk dung about how someone is leading or sit there and antagonize! Since that's what most of you idiots do anyway! Instead there are very few which I can actually thank for taking time to try and teach me how to be a leader ever since I got the idea of fading. Not claiming I'm a great leader by any means, but it's nice when those said people do help out and let me know "hey you stupid idiot, you need to pay attention to this, this, and this." Instead you're all a bunch of, god dare I say it, egotistical dickheads.

[Lykan]

In the end, it's probably our fault for not trying to make the newer age of leaders less-bad than they are, rather than just making fun of how terrible they are.

But yes, continue blaming everyone else for your incompetence. Noone led us by the hand and taught us, we *gasp* just logged on and learned through running around, taking risks, and putting ourselves out there. Tip #1: you will never get better if you don't try and just try and only enter pk when it seems like it is safe.

I'm proud of you for not claiming to be a "great leader" though. I'm sure you're right on the cusp and will graduate to the next level in the next few days.

[Rig]

In the end, it's probably our fault for not trying to make the newer age of leaders less-bad than they are, rather than just making fun of how terrible they are.

But yes, continue blaming everyone else for your incompetence.

I'm proud of you for not claiming to be a "great leader" though. I'm sure you're right on the cusp and will graduate to the next level in the next few days.

Ah yes. Exactly what I'm talking about. Not helpful toward the situation when someone offers a bit of criticism. Exactly the kind of egotistical dickhead behavior i'm talking about.

[hasp]

Rig thanks for the PK near Amador tonight was fun even though I died. 2 on 5 + a vulture and you got you and your troll out!