Addition by subtraction

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Taziar
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Addition by subtraction

Post by Taziar » Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:15 am

Has removing Cargomaster, KK, Sentry, Tariq, and ED made the game better?

Any evidence that the current philosophy of removing content and centralization is making anything better?

I'm trying to join some clans, but the ones I want to join are inactive. I log on the game and don't have anything to keep me online since the majority of the solo smobs got removed... without having solo things to do while I try and wait for luck of others logging on, I am going to be one less name on the who list soon.

I would argue the only time player numbers have ever increased is when some form of new content was added, not subtracted.

azareth
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Re: Addition by subtraction

Post by azareth » Thu Oct 30, 2025 12:06 pm

and ants, dark trainer, captain morgan, and old kiraf!

Feneon
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Re: Addition by subtraction

Post by Feneon » Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:05 pm

captain morgan wasn't meant to be removed, fixed the issue there.

Sanguine
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Re: Addition by subtraction

Post by Sanguine » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:09 pm

The removal of and reduction of ability to solo smob is one of the primary contributing factors to me not having logged in for quite a long time (a year?).

Kiltwich
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Re: Addition by subtraction

Post by Kiltwich » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:50 pm

Sanguine wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:09 pm
The removal of and reduction of ability to solo smob is one of the primary contributing factors to me not having logged in for quite a long time (a year?).
So you are to blame for the luggard market being less stocked than usual....

but more on topic, relocating a handful of those smobs, perhaps to areas like GF/altara/Chachin, would have been a better option than simply removing them.
It would also be nice if they area design for those solo-oriented smobs didn't mostly have doors to make it much harder to survive a gank (Belroi being exempt as he has the TAR chance). The smob being indoor, with the person dism and generally unable to quickly remount should provide plenty of an advantage for the DS gank squads that roam the countryside.

Lansin
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Re: Addition by subtraction

Post by Lansin » Fri Oct 31, 2025 2:22 am

I agree with Taz. And I think Kiltwich has a really interesting point. Gf is an absolutely massive and mostly useless zone. Centralize those smobs and ds will have somewhere to look for pk or farming. Ls will be able to solo farm them. It’s good for everyone.

If the issue is a few folks that are abusing certain things then heavily punish those players.

Theres an issue with post boot too. Theres nothing for ds or ls to do. Which hurts the Aus and some EU players. Lately for ds people have been popping digger but that goes away soon. I want to be on ds or ls for pk but if there’s nothing to do no one logs.

I typically have around 5 or 6 players on ls who want to do stuff but TAR isn’t worth taking the time to hit. Smobbing for regular gear can be difficult due to a number of factors, like eventual numbers. It’s a bit difficult to get anything going.

Korsik
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Re: Addition by subtraction

Post by Korsik » Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:22 am

Kiltwich wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:50 pm
(Belroi being exempt as he has the TAR chance)
It is not a TAR chance

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