Main Characters: Kathala Sedai; Fyra Sedai; Santino Du Lis; Rogan Du Lis
Summary: A small sovereign nation trying to be heard
Location : Caemlyn City Square
Kathala says 'See it as a token of appreciation from the Yellow Ajah.'
Santino says 'You see what I mean by the lack of respect Rogan?'
Santino says 'She needs to be interrogated!'
Rogan says 'I do see how they look down on us.'
Santino says 'We should confine her in Mayene!'
Jaydevean grins evilly.
Jaydevean extracates himself from an uncomfortable situation
Rogan says 'We offer them a token and they turn it around as if they are giving it to us.'
Kathala says 'Are you feeling quite alright, Lord Santino?'
Santino nods at Rogan.
Santino glares at Kathala.
Kathala says 'Perhaps a fever running high?'
Rogan says 'We just would like our respect Aes Sedai.'
Kathala moves to lay a hand on Santino's forehead.
Kathala says 'Pray tell, show me where I disrespected you?'
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Santino says 'Rogan, explain to her please'
Rogan says 'Kathala Sedai we have just had a few bad run ins of late with the Tower disrespecting the
First and Mayene. '
Santino nods in agreement.
Kathala says 'That is regrettable, can you elaborate?'
Rogan says 'My brother Santino witnessed a few disperaging words as of last night.'
Santino nods in agreement.
Rogan says 'Of course this has nothing to do with you.'
Santino shakes his head.
Santino points at Kathala.
Santino shakes his head.
Santino purses his lips.
Rogan says 'Oh she is one of the culprits?'
Santino looks surprised.
Santino whispers to you, 'no not her'
Kathala says 'Who spoke these words?'
Rogan says 'I did not think she was.'
Rogan says 'I believe the Tower does not notice us a sovereign nation.'
Kathala ponders life, the universe, and everything.
Santino nods in agreement.
Kathala says 'Are you not a sovereign nation?'
Santino arches an eyebrow.
Kathala says 'You are not Mayene Province, are you?'
Rogan says 'We are, but Tear does not see us that way.'
Santino says 'And the White Tower has never publicly said this as well, in order to not upset the
Tairens.'
Rogan says 'We heard rumblings from members of the Tower that would not befit the status of the Tower.'
Kathala says 'And again I ask, by whom were these words spoken?'
Rogan says 'My Lord Santino has more details on the matter. Lord Santino would you like to give her a
little more information.'
Santino says 'It doesn't matter who spoke the words Lady Kathala'
Santino says 'Only that they were spoken. Consider this...'
Santino says 'Right now, your people are banished from an entire nation'
Rogan says 'But you saying that we are a sovereign nation goes a long way to resolve these issues.'
Santino says 'And what has the Tower done in response other than simper and ignore'
Santino says 'We are looked down upon, even with that lack of concern or action alone.'
Rogan says 'I did send a missive to the Gray Ajah about these matters and have heard nothing but
crickets.'
Kathala says 'You must understand that we cannot formulate a response without knowing what the
problem even is. Bureaucracy moves slow even if it is fully informed.'
Santino says 'When it comes to respect for another nation, does the problem actually matter? Do you
need to hear specifics?'
Santino says 'Or do you wish to see results in fixing the issue?'
Santino says 'I know how we personally handle things, it isn't the way this has been handled.'
Rogan says 'Yes Kathala Sedai I truly understand. And hate to bombard you here in this city, but you
are here and now can work.'
Kathala says 'Save for the use of the One Power, one cannot heal the injury without knowing what the
problem is.'
Kathala says 'I believe much the same holds true in other cases.'
Kathala tilts her head, gauging the response.
Rogan says 'The nation of Mayene and the First want to have outstanding relations with the Tower.'
Rogan says 'In fact the Lady First has issued a quest to remove linked Seanchan couples and give the
A'dam to the red sister that lives in Mayene.'
Kathala smirks at the mention of damane.
Rogan says 'All in the name of trying to further our relations and grow a bond, but there has been no
word from the Tower if it is even appreciated.'
Kathala says 'It is commendable that the First sees the danger of these sul'dam and damane and has
decreed action.'
Rogan says 'Yes all in her vast wisdom.'
Kathala says 'I would argue that this is also to Mayene's benefit. One less pair equals one less
threat to Mayene.'
Rogan says 'I cannot debate you on that Kathala Sedai, but the fact that we are giving them to the
Tower for research should at least warrant a thanks.'
Rogan says 'We have not even seen a letter of goodwill.'
Kathala says 'Then in name of the White Tower, I would like to express my gratitude for removing
these items from the Seanchan. You are doing all coastal areas a favor.'
Rogan says 'Thank you Aes Sedai.'
Rogan says 'I definitely do not want to seem combative. It is hard when we are looked down upon and
most will not admit to our severeignty.'
Kathala says 'And, all women who can channel, because those poor girls...'
Kathala's voice trails off.
Rogan nods at her.
Rogan says 'It truly is a shame. We try our best to free the ones collared. '
Kathala nods in agreement.
Rogan says 'Are you pulling some Aes Sedai tricks on me leading down a different trail?'
Kathala says 'I believe I may have seen some results of that. We regularly receive reports from
girls who have escaped.'
Kathala says 'Mother tasks us with retrieving these girls.'
Rogan says 'A few of those have came from the outpost between Mayene and the surpressors.'
Kathala says 'When we work together, great things can happen.'
Santino pats Aldwyn's hand as he doses off in his chair.
Rogan says 'I agree with that. A public announcement from one such as yourself would go a long way for
our sovereignty.'
Santino says 'To heal the wounds in our hearts he means.'
Kathala says 'It would not do to heal one wound, but rip another wide open.'
Santino says 'We have always been sovereign '
Rogan says 'Yes, Lord Santino my words do me no favor. I meant for the public awareness of us a
sovereign nation.'
Kathala says 'I do not disagree with the sentiment.'
Kathala says 'In fact, I believe most do recognize you as a sovereign nation, except that Tear does
not.'
Rogan nods at her.
Kathala eats a plate with bread and green veined cheese.
Kathala licks her fingers.
Rogan says 'But does the Tower?'
Santino says 'Collectively.'
Santino says 'Individually means nothing.'
Rogan nods at him.
Kathala says 'It has been a while since I familiarized myself with the Tower's public stance on
Mayene.'
Santino smiles happily.
Rogan says 'Would you do us a favor and familiarize yourself once again? '
Santino smiles happily.
Kathala says 'That would require me visiting Tar Valon and looking it up in the library,
unfortunately.'
Rogan says 'Mayene is not expecting a hasty answer.'
Kathala says 'Would it satisfy you for now that I return to Tar Valon and relay your point of view?'
Rogan says 'I believe that it would. I also believe that we have made some progress to heal the rift
that has grown.'
Kathala says 'I am no Gray, nor do I speak for the Hall, but I can at least bring it to the
attention of both so that we may Delve into the issue.'
Rogan says 'That is all that we ask. '
Rogan says 'That the Tower as a whole shows Mayene the respect that you have today.'
Kathala says 'Then I will do as requested, with haste, as a sign of good faith.'
Rogan thanks Kathala heartily.
Fyra has arrived from the north.
Fyra smiles happily.
Rogan inclines his head in greeting to Fyra.
Kathala says 'Ah, Sister.'
Fyra greets Kathala with a light kiss on her cheek.
Fyra smiles happily.
Kathala says 'It is good to see you here.'
Fyra says 'Hellow, Winged Guard.'
Fyra says 'You as well.'
Rogan says 'Good day Aes Sedai.'
Fyra says 'I had just sent message to Santion here, clarifying our position.'
Santino says 'Who is Santion?'
Fyra says 'SHould I repeat it for all to here, Lord Santino?'
Kathala says 'May I introduce Lord Santino and Master Rogan du Lis, General and Second of Mayene,
respectively.'
Fyra smiles happily.
Fyra nods in agreement.
Santino smiles happily.
Rogan smiles happily.
Santino says 'Pleasure'
Kathala muses 'Yellow on yellow.'
Santino says 'I am mostly a silent observer. I am very old.'
Kathala shakes her dress irritably.
Fyra says 'As I told Santino....'
Rogan says 'Kathala Sedai has graced us with her presence and her ear.'
Rogan says 'And it is appreciated.'
Fyra says 'I assume, by your list of alleged Tower trangressors, that you have no problem with the
best Ajah, the Yellow, still being allowed in Mayene? If attacks end up be launched from Mayene to
take back that fortress, Mayene makes a great place for setting up a triage. Certainly Tear wouldn't
work, as they don't appreciate our.... special skills.'
Fyra nods to herself, she must need reassurance.
Kathala stops resting, and clambers on her feet.
Kathala gestures briefly at Kathala, who now appears more impressive somehow.
Fyra gestures briefly at Fyra, who now appears more impressive somehow.
Fyra assumes a defensive striking posture.
Santino smiles happily.
Santino looks at Rogan.
Kathala whispers 'A gentle touch often has the best result in a patient, Sister.'
Fyra nods in agreement.
Fyra says 'Indeed'
Rogan says 'It has been made clear to Kathala Sedai that to fulfill our request the Tower as a whole
needs to recognize Mayene as a Sovereign nation publicly.'
Rogan says 'To heal the wounds that we have sustained.'
Fyra says 'Well, I'm not sure you are adressing the right.... Ajah, for that.'
Santino holds a hand over his heart and hangs his head.
Fyra says 'But please bring me up to speed.'
Rogan says 'See that is the issue at hand. I sent a missive to the Gray Ajah and we have not heard a
peep.'
Kathala says 'Fortunately, I did study with the Gray, for a time in my younger years.'
Fyra says 'What wounds has the Tower inflicted, exactly?'
Kathala smiles at Santino, her chin wobbbling.
Rogan says 'Wounds that cut deeply.'
Santino nods in agreement.
Fyra says 'Which are...'
Rogan says 'Like a scaple has been taken to our heart.'
Santino plunges a pretend blade into his heart.
Rogan says 'We have been laid bare for all the world to see.'
Santino holds his hands out wide and gestures about.
Fyra says 'We need more specifics, for we cannot heal a wound we don't fully understand.'
Fyra says 'And I doubt delving will reveal this one.'
Santino says 'If I may Rogan?'
Rogan says 'Our beloved Lady First has had some horific things said about her from some of your
sisters.'
Rogan nods at him.
Rogan says 'Of course my Lord.'
Fyra says 'To her directly?'
Santino says 'As healers, and if I may say, the greatest of said people...'
Fyra nods at Santino.
Kathala looks at Santino expectantly.
Santino says 'you will agree that while knowing the exact issues with an illness can assist in
remedying it'
Fyra nods in agreement.
Santino says 'more important is stabilizing the patient and getting to the root of the problem.'
Rogan nods at him.
Santino says 'We could give you examples of the things that have been said many times over'
Fyra says 'You use a lot of words, to say so little, Santino. I don't mean to offend, but if we
could take a more direct path the answer, it may lead to less misunderstanding.'
Santino says 'I'm willing to bet you've heard disparaging comments on the boards that you all post
your letters to, to communicate.'
Santino says 'Dismissive comments.'
Kathala frowns pensively.
Santino says 'Specifics are necessary Lady Fyra, and the fact that we are even here and there is a
problem, is the problem, and what's important.'
Santino says 'And it is Lord Santino, Lady Fyra.'
Santino smiles happily.
Fyra says 'I can say honestly, within my oaths, that I have heard no disparaging comments regarding
Mayene.'
Rogan nods at him.
Rogan gasps in astonishment.
Santino shrugs helplessly.
Rogan says 'You mean you have not heard people talking about the beauty of the Lady First and that they
want to do stuff to her?'
Fyra says 'However, I will not dismiss your claims, as just because I've not heard them, does not
mean they haven't happened.'
Rogan says 'Things even sailors would not phathom to say.'
Kathala says 'Such is the burden of being a woman, Master Rogan.'
Fyra shakes her head at Rogan.
Santino says 'The sentence, "Mayene is a dump where dreams go to die." Was uttered by one of your
members yesterday.'
Santino says 'For example.'
Rogan gasps in astonishment.
Fyra says 'I would not imagine any would say such disgusting remarks to me about another woman,
Rogan.'
Santino says 'Do we really need to go through every offending incident, or do we need to fix the
problem and take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again?'
Kathala raises an eyebrow and gestures at her bulk 'Even one such as me.'
Rogan says 'I would hope not Lady Fyra Sedai.'
Fyra says 'I would imagine, Lord Santino, that every city in every land has had negative comments
made about it.'
Fyra says 'However, the comments of a few do not express the opinion of the many.'
Rogan says 'Only Tear deserves it.'
Santino says 'Which is where the issue that Second Rogan brought forward comes into play.'
Rogan nods at him.
Santino says 'Officially, you have no opinion regarding us, which we find equally insulting.'
Fyra says 'Who said I have no opinion?'
Santino says 'Collectively and publicly, Lady Fyra.'
Fyra nods at Santino.
Rogan nods at him.
Fyra says 'So your biggest issue here is not a few rude comments made by a couple Tower members.
It's about how we view your soveirgnity? '
Santino says 'It's all of it.'
Fyra nods in agreement.
Fyra says 'mmhmm'
Santino says 'The language you're using currently I find to be insulting and dismissive.'
Rogan says 'This would go a long way in healing our wounds suffered. To hear a public announcement from
the Tower stating Mayene is a sovereign nation.'
Santino says 'And speaks to how serious you take us. Which is part of the problem.'
Rogan nods at him.
Fyra says 'I have not been dismissive at all, Lord Santino. I only mean to be direct about what the
ultimate goal here is.'
Rogan says 'While lending us your ear begins the process of showing your seriousness.'
Fyra says 'I hear what your concerns are now, and better understand them.'
Santino says 'I think the best course of action would be to not think of this as goal oriented. We
are attempting something deeper.'
Fyra nods at Santino.
Rogan says 'That is true Lord Santino.'
Santino bows before Rogan.
Rogan says 'We want to grow our relations with the Tower.'
Santino says 'Thank you for allowing an old man to speak.'
Santino toddles back off to his corner to watch insects.
Rogan says 'My lord. You can always speak!'
Santino smiles at Rogan.
Fyra says 'If I may ask, Rogan, do you think a Tower wide ban without discussion first is the best
way to grow Tower relations?'
Rogan says 'Unfortunately to get your attention we have to do something so drastic.'
Kathala says to no one in particular 'A stab of pain usually does get one's attention.'
Fyra says 'I assure you , I would have been more than willing to meet with, had you only asked.'
Fyra says 'But I do see your point.'
Rogan says 'Herein lies the problem. We have been feeling that stab for a while now. How long till we
bleed out.'
Santino makes spurting motions with his hand and hangs his head, looking at no one in particular.
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Rogan says 'That is why we are glad to talk to a couple of Yellow Ajah. You know what can happen if a
wound goes untreated.'
Fyra says 'Indeed'
Fyra says 'But we also know how a wound can grow worse if not treated properly.'
Fyra says 'It's a fine line.'
Kathala nods at Fyra.
Rogan says 'It has festered for so long. We do not wish to take drastic measure, but we will do what we
must.'
Santino smiles happily.
Fyra says 'Though Santino doesn't want this to be goal oriented, I must confess I'm a very goal
oriented person.'
Fyra says 'WHat is it you want from us, if I may ask directly?'
Rogan says 'First thing is respect.'
Fyra says 'And by us, I mean Kathala and I specifically?'
Fyra says 'You have it.'
Santino says 'It's not that I don't want it to Lady Fyra, it is simply that it is not. There is no
goal, no end game. We have taken the steps necessary to protect ourselves.'
Santino shrugs helplessly.
Santino says 'What happens now is up to you'
Kathala says 'I was asked to relay the Mayener's opinions to the Gray and the Hall.'
Fyra smiles happily.
Fyra nods in agreement.
Santino nods at Kathala.
Kathala says 'And I have acquiesced.'
Rogan smiles at her.
Fyra says 'A very easy to meet request.'
Fyra smiles happily.
Rogan says 'I am glad that we have now have the attention of the Tower and things can begin to heal.'
Fyra says 'Now that you've got the word of the Yellow Ajah, what of my request in regards to our
needs?'
Rogan says 'But like Lord Santino said it is now in your court.'
Fyra says 'The Dragonsworn are an immediate threat in your reegion right now, Rogan.'
Rogan says 'That is true, but we have dealt with them before.'
Santino says 'Second Rogan, please.'
Santino says 'or Councilor Rogan if you prefer.'
Rogan smiles at him.
Rogan says 'See it is just a respect thing Lady Fyra Sedai.'
Kathala says 'If I remember correctly, the White Tower stood at the gates of Mayene to combat the
onslaught.'
Fyra says 'In the short term, we need to be able to assist the light in keeping them at bay. If they
have Male Chanellers present when you go to deal with them, having Tower members around could be a
big help.'
Fyra says 'If that is not respect, Councilor Rogan, I don't know what is.'
Fyra says 'And to me, respect is shown more through actions than words.'
Rogan nods at her.
Santino says 'Respect is not something that can be redefined in accordance with your own ideas Lady
Fyra. Much like truth. It is or it is not. And it is all encompassing.'
Fyra says 'The Yellow Ajah finds respect worthy as well, Lord Santino.'
Santino smiles happily.
Santino bows his head.
Fyra says 'You ask a favor of us, which we have agreed to without strings. However, allowing us to
be able to work from your city would be a return of faith and respect.'
Rogan says 'This is definitely a first step. Listening and talking. Now lets see what fruit these talks
bear and then we can discuss other matters.'
Santino nods in agreement.
Santino says 'The contents of this discussion also need to be shared with those on our end.'
Fyra nods at Santino.
Rogan says 'I am amenable to further talks, but at this time the nation of Mayene is still closed off.'
Fyra says 'Hopefully that will change. There are many in your city that could use healing, and you
are effecting their ability to receive it.'
Rogan says 'We will still do our part in freeing those trapped young women and giving the a'dam over to
the Tower.'
Fyra says 'I have sent people to heal those infected by stings from your huge biting insects, for
example.'
Rogan says 'We will still allow your Red Sister to stay in Mayene as an envoy.'
Fyra says 'Your people will suffer, without those of the Yellow AJah there to help them.'
Rogan says 'Our people are united.'
Santino says 'Big Mama Rachel has those poultices. They've always worked well.'
Rogan nods at him.
Fyra says 'With all do respect, none match the healing prowess of the Yellow Ajah.'
Santino says 'there is no doubt that is true Lady Fyra.'
Fyra says 'But I'm sure you know that.'
Fyra nods at Santino.
Rogan says 'That cannot be argued against but wounds of the heart are harder to heal.'
Rogan says 'The people of Mayene have a crushed spirit.'
Fyra says 'They can both be healed simultaneously, Councilor Rogan.'
Rogan says 'That is what we are working on Lady Fyra Sedai.'
Santino nods in agreement.
Fyra says 'You allow a Red Ajah delegate there. Why not a Yellow as well??'
Santino says 'We do not "allow" anyone.'
Fyra says 'Do you think less of our Ajah?'
Rogan says 'Because she has lived there for a long time. It is her home.'
Santino says 'We will be asking for a few of you to come south soon to escort her home.'
Fyra says 'Councilor Rogan said you would allow the Red sister to stay.'
Santino says 'Did he?'
Fyra says 'Have you already gone back on that?'
Santino says 'I missed that, my apologies.'
Fyra nods in agreement.
Kathala nods solemnly.
Fyra says 'I request a member of the Yellow be allowed to represent your city as well.'
Rogan says 'It is a first branch since you so graciously gave us your time.'
Fyra says 'Only one, to heal your people. You can choose who.'
Rogan says 'I am sorry but that would require more from you.'
Fyra says 'Our presence there would be in service to your people Councilor Rogan, is that not
enough?'
Rogan says 'It would go a long way for an Aes Sedai to publicly announce Mayene as a sovereign nation.'
Kathala smirks at the contents of the tinful.
Rogan says 'That would be enough for us to have this Yellow Sister Lady Fyra Sedai.'
Fyra says 'That proclamation would have to be made by the Tower as a whole, Councilor ROgan. It is
not one I can give individually.'
Santino smiles happily.
Rogan says 'See that is where we are at an empass.'
Fyra says 'It's not to say it's not one I could advocate for in our Hall.'
Fyra says 'I feel better about advocating for nations that return the good will and trust I give to
them.'
Rogan says 'You advocate it in your Hall and succeed on our behalf we will have you a triage built.'
Fyra says 'So there will be no good will from Mayene toward our fine Ajah then, Councilor ROgan?'
Fyra says 'We are expected to respect your city, while you fail to resepect our Ajah?'
Rogan says 'That is not true at all. Do you not benefit from us removing the a'dam from the Seanchan?'
Kathala says 'Ah, but we had ascertained that that also benefits you and all coastal nations.'
Rogan says 'We have never shown disrespect to the Tower as far as my knowledge. We were disrespected
for a long time.'
Fyra says 'They Yellow Ajah are being asked to carry your message, yet are shunned from your city
without a single representative. The Red Ajah get one, and haven't even met with you.'
Rogan says 'Those are the wounds we are trying to heal.'
Santino says 'You are welcome not to carry the message Lady Fyra, Lady Kathala.'
Fyra says 'I feel that is disrespectful, Councilor Rogan.'
Santino says 'We are here, we have told you what our problem is, we have told you what we are
willing to do.'
Santino says 'That is all we will do.'
Kathala says 'I have said I will, so I will, Lord Santino.'
Santino bows before Kathala.
Fyra says 'Yuo message will be delivered.'
Santino bows before Fyra.
Santino smiles happily.
Rogan says 'What do you feel is disrespectful? You first say the whole tower has to be unified and we
give you the Red Sister, but becuase it is not the yellow we are now disrespecting.'
Fyra says 'But I will not forget the dismissal the Yellow Ajah has received today.'
Fyra says 'You have people in your city that suffer ailments. We have been asekd speecifically to be
yuor message carriers to the Hall, yet get no status in your city. You do not see that as
disresepctful?'
Rogan says 'I am sorry that you feel I have dismissed the Yellow. It is just the Red Sister is always
there. She has always been kind to us. I have not seen you before today.'
Santino says 'Lady Kathala has been one of my oldest friends for longer than most have even been
alive. I would never dismiss the yellow ajah. But just as you cannot by yourself publicly advocate,
we cannot bend in this.'
Santino bows before Fyra.
Santino says 'That isn't to say it will not change. Just not at this time.'
Fyra says 'Then so be it, Lord Santino.'
Fyra frowns.
Rogan says 'I am sorry that this a taken a turn to arguments. I feel like we were making such progress
before.'
Kathala says 'Agreed, Master Rogan.'
Fyra says 'As I said from the beginning, it takes two parties to heal, Councilor ROgan'
Santino smiles happily.
Fyra says 'Negotiation usually involves give from both parties.'
Rogan says 'I truly did not mean any slight to the Yellow. I attempted to
talk in a language that suits the Yellow.'
Fyra sighs loudly.
Fyra says 'I do not mean to be argumentative. However, I serve all, as a servant to all. When I am
not allowed to serve your people in my capacity, it hurts me, Lord Rogan.'
Fyra says 'I served Mayene well, many times.'
Rogan says 'If the Yellow Ajah admits to us being a sovereign nation then you
can have your place in Mayene.'
Rogan says 'Publicly of course.'
Fyra says 'I will pass on your request to the Gray Ajah, and they can reach out to you.'
Rogan says 'And I have served with members of the Tower vanquishing foes near the city.'
Fyra says 'But I cannot do much else.'
Santino says 'excuse me a moment'
Santino leaves north riding a warhorse. ^^
Rogan says 'Thank you so much for your time Lady Fyra Sedai and Kathala Sedai.'
Rogan says 'One day I truly believe the wounds will be healed.'
Kathala whispers something to Fyra.
Fyra says 'Only if both sides are willing to work toward healing them.'
Rogan says 'Thank you for acting in good faith and meeting with us today.'