Channie setup help.

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Jin
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Channie setup help.

Post by Jin » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:34 am

Hey all, so yea I've been gone for twelve years and I'm getting back into the swing of things. I have an old alt that's going to be RP based, smobbing, exploring, etc with only the random moments of PK since she's a healer. I've always disliked dodge on her for her RP and in my very old mind combo is life even on channies(Sometimes). I've never done a full parry combo set on her so I'm wondering what the newest stuff is like.

I'm thinking maybe medblades combo, but I'm open to all suggestions. Her stats are Your base abilities are: Str:16 Int:17 Wil:19 Dex:17 Con:13

I'm kinda thinking getting bash on her for the fun factor.

Prykor
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Re: Channie setup help.

Post by Prykor » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:59 am

Full dodge is not pk viable on 17 dex -- you really need that 18 to make things work! Things will be painful otherwise.

From my experiences, a parry set is the super light combo set. 91% dodge will be plenty to make things work, and the same prac set up for standard combo will be what you want for other combo set ups. you generally wear a kandori/emme ring set up with the parry eq gives you all the mvs you will ever need and the extra db help more than the pb.

For non-bash set ups, the ring quillon sword (med blade) and pearl handled sabre (fencing blade) are the go-to weapons. If you go bash, then you have a lot more options -- including long blades.

I recommend playing around with the prac and EQ trainers below:
http://wotmudarchives.org/tools/etrainer.html (thearmor and trinket settings are on the top right for quickly tossing out a basic parry and dodge/kcuff set)
http://wotmudarchives.org/tools/ptrainer.html

Note that the weapon/armor stats are a bit out of date, but it is close enough to give you a good idea of what the character's OB/DB/PB will be.

from playing around with it based on Jin's stats at lvl 51:
Bash - 84%
shield parry - 84%
medium blades - 84%
Dodge - 92%
Search - 34%
Track - 67%
Ride - 85% (lvl 6)
Notice - 85%
Survival - 57% (lvl 4)

It takes a bit of sacrifice to add in bash. you certainly will bash absers with it 3/4th of the time, and heavy combo folks about half the time.
I believe you can expect about 110-115 DB with 235-ish defense brave/ 265-ish wimpy (assuming armor is up).

arston
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Re: Channie setup help.

Post by arston » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:39 pm

for channie bash, i would recommend going 2h combo, or abs/clubs. 84% bash and weapon means that you are capped at 55% bash chance regardless of ob/weight/enemy db so you will only bash over half the time when you are lucky, even if they are in abs (at which point you are probably better off weaving).

Adaels setup in mudlet now lets you use an equipement trainer in game, by just typing "etrainer", adjusting the % u want to prac everything, and then clicking the set you want to use to see your ob/db/pb etc

Morella
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Re: Channie setup help.

Post by Morella » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:58 pm

I think you're going to want 18 dex.

Detritus
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Re: Channie setup help.

Post by Detritus » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:28 am

Everything is always a trade off choice, here's some of the base gears comparison choices from one of my spreadsheets(prob still vaguely up to date or close).

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						db	pb	def	mvs	weight	abs	true%abs
BEST LIGHT COMBO										
a thick helmet of supple leather		1	2	3	2	1.5	54	4.32
a studded leather jerkin			4	5	9	5	3.5	52	25.48
a pair of dyed leather armsleeves		2	2	4	3	3	52	7.28
a pair of emerald-trimmed leather glvoes	1	2	3	0	1	58	2.32
a set of darkly dyed leather leggings		2	2	4	5	3.2	54	10.8
a pair of animal-fur boots			1	2	3	10	1.5	68	3.4
TOTAL DEF					11	15	26	25	13.7	56.33	
										
PARRY TRINKETS										
a gold ring delicately carved with ivy		0	2	2	1	0.1		
a gold ring delicately carved with ivy		0	2	2	1	0.1		
a torc of gleaming steel			-1	3	2	5	0.2		
a torc of gleaming steel			-1	3	2	5	0.2		
an earthen brown mantle				0	9	9	3	3		
a sungwood bracelet				0	3	3	2	0.1		
a sungwood bracelet				0	3	3	2	0.1		
a bronze belt of odd design			1	3	4	2	1.5		
TOTAL DEF					-1	28	27	21	5.3		
										
										
FULL DODGE										
a camouflaged hood				3	2	5	2	0.1	0	0
a bearskin tunic				9	3	12	2	0.6	16	7.84
a set of cloth sleeves				4	1	5	2	0.3	0	0
a pair of dark gloves				3	1	4	3	0.1	16	0.64
a pair of earthen colored breeches		6	2	8	3	0.4	0	0
a black pair of silver-tooled boots		4	2	6	5	0.7	18	0.9
TOTAL DEF					29	11	40	17	2.2	8.33	
										
DODGE TRINKETS										
a gold ring					3	0	3	1	0.1		
a gold ring					3	0	3	1	0.1		
a shimmering pendant of obsidian		4	0	4	5	0.1		
a shimmering pendant of obsidian		4	0	4	5	0.1		
a bright red robe				7	2	9	0	3		
a silver kandori wristcuff			3	1	4	2	0.1		
a silver kandori wristcuff			3	1	4	2	0.1		
a belt with a buckle of cuendillar		3	2	5	0	0.5		
TOTAL DEF					30	6	36	16	4.1		
										
										
BEST HEAVY COMBO										
a full metal helmet and visor			-5	0	-5	-4	3	87	6.96
a shining steel breastplate			-1	-16	-17	-4	18	88	43.12
a pair of riveted chainmail sleeves		-1	-1	-2	-2	4.5	70	9.8
a pair of emerald-trimmed leather glvoes	1	2	3	0	1	58	2.32
a pair of thick, gold-plated greaves		-4	0	-4	-3	12	76	15.2
a pair of lissome leather boots			-1	0	-1	10	2	79	3.95
						-11	-15	-26	-3	40.5	76.33	
Only go full dodge with 18dex and prac 99 dodge.
Actual parryeq gear got nerfed into complete rubbish.
Anything combo will get bashed, prac 91 dodge and balance your unbashed parry and abs value to how much you like for the content you're doing.(1v1 isn't the same as 1vmany or pure PvE)

Every 1 offence bonus is 1% bash chance.
Every 4 parry is ballpark 1% bash chance.(not sure how that scales with prac %s less than max)
Bash is capped at 65%
Clubs give 9% bash more. (74% max)
1handed bash on a channie you lose out on a lot of quality of life pracs but it's how i always played my MCs to vaguely blend in by being a crappy warrior.(i say vaguely because there's no blending in with 280hps and prerolled stats giving free 400ish if anyone you smob with pays attention)

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