Ouch! That really did HURT!

[Yaerin]

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
Audre narrates 'hmmerhead wounded bashed'
Carinya calls lightning from the sky, striking *Hammerhead* dead on.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >

*Byrg* tries to blast Vitarri, but he deflects the blow.
Carinya tickles *Rawiswar*'s left leg with her strike.
Audre scythes *Hammerhead*'s left arm.
*Ghrejah* tries to blast Catisune, but she parries successfully.
*Zankou* cleaves Delion's right leg.
You slash *Zatuchly*'s body.
Catisune avoids being bashed by *Ghrejah* who loses his balance and falls!
Werf looks at *Hammerhead*.
*Zankou* panics, and attempts to flee!
*Byrg* panics, and attempts to flee!

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >
*Zankou* leaves east.
*Byrg* leaves south.

b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >

*Rawiswar* panics, and attempts to flee!

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched > [bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >

Werf pierces *Zatuchly*'s right arm.
*Rawiswar* leaves south.

b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >
*Hammerhead* panics, and attempts to flee!
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.
Vitarri barely slashes *Ghrejah*'s body.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Scratched >
b
Werf pierces *Zatuchly*'s body.
Delion tries to slice *Hammerhead*, but he deflects the blow.
Catisune strikes *Ghrejah*'s body.
*Ghrejah* tries to blast Catisune, but she parries successfully.
You slash *Zatuchly*'s body.
*Hammerhead* leaves east.
[bash ]
They already seem to be stunned.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Hurt >

Werf tickles *Zatuchly*'s left foot with his pierce.

b
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Hurt >
*Ghrejah* panics, and attempts to flee!

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Zatuchly: Hurt > *Ghrejah* leaves east.
[bash ]


*Zatuchly* panics, and attempts to flee!
Delion slices *Zatuchly*'s left foot very hard.

-
*Zatuchly* leaves south.

=
+
*Zatuchly* has arrived from the south.
Delion tries to slice *Zatuchly*, but he deflects the blow.
Audre scythes *Zatuchly*'s right leg.

*
Werf pierces *Zatuchly*'s left arm.

*+
Werf barely pierces *Zatuchly*'s left foot.
*Zatuchly* lances Delion's body hard.
Delion slices *Zatuchly*'s right arm hard.

=
-
-
Werf tries to pierce *Zatuchly*, but he deflects the blow.

=
Your bash at *Zatuchly* sends him sprawling!

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Wounded >

*Ghrejah* has arrived from the east.
Vitarri barely slashes *Ghrejah*'s body.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Wounded >

*Ghrejah* tries to blast Vitarri, but he parries successfully.
Vitarri tickles *Ghrejah*'s body with his slash.
You slash *Zatuchly*'s body very hard.
Werf pierces *Zatuchly*'s body hard.
Audre scythes *Zatuchly*'s body hard.
Delion slices *Zatuchly*'s body very hard.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Wounded >
*Ghrejah* panics, and attempts to flee!
Carinya calls lightning from the sky, striking *Zatuchly* dead on.

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Battered >

Audre narrates 'he beaten'

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Battered >

*Ghrejah* leaves east.

g
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Battered >
[k dark]
You do the best you can!

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Battered >
bow
g
No way! You're fighting for your life!

g
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Battered > [k dark]
You do the best you can!

* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Battered > You slash *Zatuchly*'s left leg.
Werf pierces *Zatuchly*'s head.
Audre scythes *Zatuchly*'s right foot hard.
*Zatuchly* panics, and attempts to flee!
Delion slices *Zatuchly*'s body hard.
[k dark]
You do the best you can!
Audre narrates 'zat bashed'
*Zatuchly* panics, and attempts to flee!
Catisune calls lightning from the sky, striking *Zatuchly* dead on.

g
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full - Delion: Hurt - Zatuchly: Critical >
*Zatuchly* leaves south.
*Zatuchly* has arrived from the south.
Delion tries to slice *Zatuchly*, but he deflects the blow.
Audre scythes *Zatuchly*'s body hard.
*Zatuchly* is incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.

g
* R HP:Wounded MV:Full >
[k dark]
You slash *Zatuchly*'s right leg very hard.
*Zatuchly* is dead! R.I.P.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel tighten around you.
You receive your share of experience...
Your first time! Was it good for you too?
Your blood freezes as you hear *Zatuchly*'s death cry.

[Zatuchly]

The funniest part about this is it wasn't two double flees, once I got two rooms away and just spammed back in.

[Pulverwise]

~100hp in 2 combat rounds from a full dodge char on a full abs char. I definitely don't love that projectiles are better than a zerk abs master. Second time in two days I've died to the same mechanics :(

They're not here anymore!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > The Blight
[ obvious exits: N W ]
*Fermin* is standing here.
A huge darkhound is here, drooling and snarling.
A tall, ramshorned trolloc is here, commanding.
A tall, ramshorned trolloc is here, commanding.
A tall, ramshorned trolloc is here, commanding.
A tall, ramshorned trolloc is here, commanding.
A fade emerges from the shadows as you pass by.

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > *Fermin* stabs your left hand.
[k light]
You do the best you can!

[bash ] - Fermin: Wounded >


*Fermin* stabs your left leg very hard.
A huge darkhound joins your fight!
A ramshorned trolloc joins your fight!
A ramshorned trolloc joins a ramshorned trolloc's fight!

=
*Fermin* stabs your left leg hard.
*Fermin* panics, and attempts to flee!

-
*Fermin* leaves west.

=
They're not here anymore!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > change mood berserk
Mood changed to: Berserk

pp
o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > pp
A rat has arrived from the west.
[k h.light]
You try to blast *Fermin*, but he deflects the blow.

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Wounded > w
[k h.light]
You do the best you can!

b
o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Wounded > No way! You're fighting for your life!

*Fermin* sheathes a pair of moonstone hilted dirks into a shoufa with a black veil.
[bash ]


*Fermin* wields a pair of moonstone hilted dirks in a two-handed grip.
*Fermin* stabs your left leg hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

A huge darkhound joins your fight!
A ramshorned trolloc joins your fight!
A ramshorned trolloc joins a ramshorned trolloc's fight!

+
*Fermin* sheathes a pair of moonstone hilted dirks into a shoufa with a black veil.

*
*Fermin* wields a pair of moonstone hilted dirks in a two-handed grip.


*Fermin* sheathes a pair of moonstone hilted dirks into a shoufa with a black veil.

*
*Fermin* wields a pair of moonstone hilted dirks in a two-handed grip.

=
A ramshorned trolloc tries to cleave Fermin, but he deflects the blow.
Fermin swiftly dodges a ramshorned trolloc's attempt to cleave him.
A huge darkhound hits Fermin's body.
*Fermin* barely stabs your left hand.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

You try to blast *Fermin*, but he parries successfully.
Your bash at *Fermin* sends him sprawling!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Wounded > ]
]
]
[k light]
You do the best you can!

]
o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Wounded > [k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Wounded > ]
You blast *Fermin*'s body into bloody fragments!
*Fermin* panics, and attempts to flee!
[k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Battered > ]
[k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Battered > [k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Battered > ]
A ramshorned trolloc cleaves Fermin's left arm into bloody fragments!
A ramshorned trolloc tries to cleave Fermin, but he deflects the blow.
A huge darkhound hits Fermin's right foot very hard.
You blast *Fermin*'s right hand into bloody fragments!
[k light]
You do the best you can!

]
o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > ]
[k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > ]
[k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > ]
[k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > ]
[k light]
You do the best you can!

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > ]
*Fermin* leaves west.
[k light]
They aren't here.

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > [k light]
They aren't here.

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > ]
[k light]
They aren't here.

w
o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > pp
[k light]
They aren't here.

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > b
The Blight
[ obvious exits: E S ]
*Fermin* is standing here.
The giant blight beetle is here flying around.
A trolloc is here ruling a group of trollocs.
A black tree with bloated leaves sprouts from the ground, branches quivering.
A black tree with bloated leaves sprouts from the ground, branches quivering.

o HP:Beaten MV:Tiring > *Fermin* stabs your right arm hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

[k h.light]
You do the best you can!

[bash ] ng - Fermin: Beaten >

+
*Fermin* sheathes a pair of moonstone hilted dirks into a shoufa with a black veil.

*
*Fermin* throws a throwing spike at you!

=
A throwing spike arcs through the air.

-
A Dhai'mon trolloc joins your fight!
A shrill piercing scream reverberates through the area.
The blighted tree tries to hit Fermin, but he parries successfully.
The blighted tree joins the blighted tree's fight!
The blighted tree tries to hit Fermin, but he dodges the attack.
The blighted tree tries to hit Fermin, but he parries successfully.
A Dhai'mon trolloc tries to crush Fermin, but he dodges the attack.
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.
Timer now at 58 secs.


Ooomf PAIN!! You are wracked with pain as you are struck by a throwing spike!
Oof! You are rudely interrupted!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!


o HP:Critical MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten >
*Fermin* wields a pair of moonstone hilted dirks in a two-handed grip.

o HP:Critical MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten >
*Fermin* sheathes a pair of moonstone hilted dirks into a shoufa with a black veil.

o HP:Critical MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > b

*Fermin* throws a throwing spike at you!

[bash ] ng - Fermin: Beaten >

-
A throwing spike arcs through the air.

+
Ooomf!! You are struck by a throwing spike!
Oof! You are rudely interrupted!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

The blighted tree barely hits Fermin's body.
*Fermin* panics, and attempts to flee!
The blighted tree tries to hit Fermin, but he parries successfully.
Fermin swiftly dodges a Dhai'mon trolloc's attempt to crush him.
*Fermin* wields a pair of moonstone hilted dirks in a two-handed grip.

o HP:Critical MV:Tiring - Fermin: Beaten > b

*Fermin* sheathes a pair of moonstone hilted dirks into a shoufa with a black veil.

[bash ] ng - Fermin: Beaten >

+
A throwing spike arcs through the air.

*
Ooomf PAIN!! You are wracked with pain as you are struck by a throwing spike!
Oof! You are rudely interrupted!
You're stunned, but will probably regain consciousness...

HP:Critical MV:Tiring >
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Circle of Darkness
[ obvious exits: N E S W U D ]
A shattered arm lies in a bloody red and purple mess.
A revolting well bubbles with the blood of the sacrificed.

You've forgotten everything you've learned!

[erulak]

Recommend unzerking to chase and zerking once you land the bash to get the attack in. That way you can flee off if he throws something at you.

If you want the benefit of zerk bash, the risk that you'll take against a projectile user is that you sit there like a lump while they throw stuff at you. Zerk attack on a master is extremely powerful, but it isn't a guaranteed win against xyz set up and shouldn't be.

[Pulverwise]

Agreed. But equally find it frustrating that there's a setup which can have full dodge, 150 db, stab, and still go toe to toe in damage dealt, with a mechanism that interrupts bash timer, and with an autowimpy meaning they have a get-out clause if a bash does land. The ability to rewield/sheath primary weapon to get around projectile lag across 3+ throws seems to dodge the designed limitation on the setup.

Also just noticed that when bash is interrupted by a projectile, you still get a round of lag as if you've cancelled the bash yourself? So you miss the next combat round.

[isabel]

you know why! abs is garbage so of course it should have 5k maluses vs other setups since they take so much longer to gather and the point of the game is to spend time gathering things :) :) :)

[Jumaro]

I think most people would agree projectiles are dumb and no one would care if they completely went away. Also woe is not you abs master warriors :p If played right Fermin could of easily died there. Was played rather poorly as pointed out by Erulak. Fermin is probably in the best kit possible. I'm guessing Pulverwise had a basic set and weapon.

[Pulverwise]

I actually think projectiles are kind of cool to have in the game, just some of the features as they stack shown above don't really seem particularly balanced. Remove lost round if they interrupt a bash? Tweak coding so you can't just set up triggers to throw multiple/draw lag? Move them to warrior practices so you actually have to make a trade off rather than still having 2h sblade + all stab pracs?

[Ryzom]

You all forgot the malus of 2h projectiles. Like 0 parry while throwing. The key there would have been to just melee zerk. They lose a round while in throw lag and you do the kersplat. Know your set ups, people!

[Jaster]

You all forgot the malus of 2h projectiles. Like 0 parry while throwing. The key there would have been to just melee zerk. They lose a round while in throw lag and you do the kersplat. Know your set ups, people!

This is correct. You would have killed him while he was throwing at you if you just didn’t bash and used your initial rounds and attack rounds to hit him while he had no defense. He was even buffing trees to split what parry he might have had as well.