Why would anyone want to pk you guys?

[isabel]

Lots to think about in your post Kilgore, just wanted to add that

'the reality is people don't really want to die, and also really want to end every session with actual profit (EQ, TPs, Scalps, potions).'

Isn't it that peolpe play for fun? text eq is a means to an end - an enjoyable playing experience.

somehow pk has become like smobbing where the goal is to just get more things and not actually have a battle of wits or whatever with thinking minds.

[Rig]

Pk isn't competitive anymore because there isn't any incentive for being reaver/ta'veren/sei'taer/mastering/being a good pker/being the better pker/etc/.

Not that we need any incentive for lists and dumb dung like that. Anyway, down rogues back to the 260 stab average again. Melee is fine now that sblades aren't chortlesnorfling stupid and not all sinister tridents with a better wiz-kill option.

[Kitiara]

Well... this just happened... I get PDW and such... but this is the kind of thing that when it happens I walk away from the MUD for awhile... I know technically i could have not narrated and just kept spamming... oh well... i guess this is fun.


Sitting Ragan gap, saw shadowspawn in zone, started spamming with notice on...


kill dark
* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh > You draw a nimble blade with a cuendillar pommel from a sword sheath with a flash of steel.
You try to slash *Rig*, but he deflects the blow.

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh - Rig: Healthy > weather
You do the best you can!

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh - Rig: Healthy > You do the best you can!

kill dark
* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh - Rig: Healthy > The temperature is about 45 degrees.
The sky is cloudy, and a mild wind comes from the south.

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh - Rig: Healthy > *Rig* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
A Shienaran forward scout joins your fight!
A Shienaran forward scout joins a Shienaran forward scout's fight!
A Shienaran forward scout joins a Shienaran forward scout's fight!
A Shienaran forward scout joins a Shienaran forward scout's fight!
Ragan joins a Shienaran forward scout's fight!
You try to slash *Rig*, but he deflects the blow.
*Rig* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
You do the best you can!

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh - Rig: Healthy > SAIDAR EMBRACED
embrace

*Rig* panics, and attempts to flee!
Ahmerinvalhid chats 'and pretty strict gender roles too'

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh - Rig: Healthy > chann 'ice spikes' dark
*Rig* leaves up.
You feel the flows of saidar coursing through your body.

Nobody here by that name.:Fresh >

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh > nar rig gap
where
Ok.

* R HP:Healthy SP:Full MV:Fresh > Players in your Zone
--------------------
Kitiara - A Shallow Depression
You sense shadowspawn nearby.

Suddenly *someone* places something in your back!
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Circle of Light
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that
become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when
the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by
some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, you find yourself, surrounded
by a bright light.


To obtain some free starting equipment, TELL GUARDIAN KIT.

It is strongly recommended that new players look at our website at
wotmud.info, and our forums at forums.wotmud.info, before starting
out, for the rules, maps, advice, and more.
[ obvious exits: N D ]
The waters of a blue-veined marble fountain pour forth here.
A stout wooden barrel stands nearby.

Zygoat narrates 'I really hate fighting rig'
Alaina narrates 'we all do'


* HP:Critical SP:Strong MV:Haggard > wehre
kill dark
Arglebargle, glop-glyf!?!

[isabel]

It's sort of funny or weirdly nostalgic or just a bad habit that we sit here and discuss for 8 pages about what has essentialy become a largely boring game (i mean pk, not anything else about wotmud).

[Davor]

Still the best game Ive ever played.

[erulak]

Still the best game Ive ever played.

I'll drink to that. My top 5:

1. WoTMUD
2. NHL 94
3. Madden 08
4. Madden 21
5. FIFA 15

[Sarryn]

In all honesty in my opinion I don't mind stab at all. It's annoying, can be really bad for people with bad links. Which are a good majority of players here. It's not like I enjoy fighting rogues by any means. Lag vs stab/charge is very unpleasant. That being said if there's anything on wotmud I think is a game wrecker it's channelers. Rogues I give no fks about. I personally usually even forget I can stab but I've played a melee/attack setup so long stab just doesn't come natural. I'd rather melee generally then flee about and attempt stabs. I'm not saying it can't be used very efficiently and deadly. There's players that do it very well. People like nog/rig/ferm/shin/nex etc are quite deadly with it. I'm very so much on board with the anti flee/time stab crap. It's pretty dull and generally they don't get low at all. Because there usually pretty smart. And there usually in a top tier set/rare.

Now channelers on the other hand, they annoy the dung outa me. A player like Jestin/Kilgore/Nevaeh etc with a group at there backs is pretty rough. I'll face 5 fleebie rogues over that usually. But again link is a huge factor on this game. When I'm not on a ethernet connected link or not at home etc. I instantly feel the difference and by a wide margin. These top tier pkers usually have sick links. And if you don't do dung perfectly your gonna get caught in the next room often and easy. I've had a couple really crap deaths on some non ethernet connected links where my link is super slow compared. And man those type of players seem like there on fkin outerspace type links then lol. Couple that with bulk heavy damage things like channelers, and potentially even flee/time stab etc. Then it becomes just really dung.

But ya link and lag and channelers, those are my pet peeves on wotmud lol. And I know my link isn't even that bad when not hard connected, but it's a vast difference that's for sure. I can't even fathom how some of these people are competitive from other countries. With not very good links. More power to you guys, for real. You guys are all stars.

[isabel]

Still the best game Ive ever played.

Find even ONE pk log from 2021 that compares to any of these I pulled out in 4 minutes of skimming AoW from a time when pk was actualy exciting. Maybe for inspiration you can dive into the 29 new pages on the stab thread since Jan 2021.

1) Bash bros go raiding EF

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=647

2) Rark vs the world

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1111

3) Saif vs 3

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=976

4) Educational: Heavy Advantage

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=11581

5) Perfect Timing - Zarth (good old rottendoor)

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=957

6) YOLO 2 - Davor

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1338

7) Outpost - Lykan

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1668

[Jaster]

Still the best game Ive ever played.

Find even ONE pk log from 2021 that compares to any of these I pulled out in 4 minutes of skimming AoW from a time when pk was actualy exciting. Maybe for inspiration you can dive into the 29 new pages on the stab thread since Jan 2021.

1) Bash bros go raiding EF

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=647

2) Rark vs the world

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1111

3) Saif vs 3

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=976

4) Educational: Heavy Advantage

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=11581

5) Perfect Timing - Zarth (good old rottendoor)

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=957

6) YOLO 2 - Davor

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1338

7) Outpost - Lykan

viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1668

The problem with this statement and example is it’s merely your opinion on what you find exciting. You are trying to get everyone to meet or exceed your expectations when the reality is what makes this game great is it bring different escapes for everyone. Other games are one dimensional where this one can be created and explored in a multitude of directions. Unfortunately, people including yourself want it all the same or just the way you like it, which would make it just another game to lose interest in. I never understood this, but that is why we are all different and get enjoyment in other ways on the game.

[isabel]

I'm saying the opposite. A lot more is happening in those logs than 30 pages of one-dimensional hide;back h.xxx