When FC's weave, you die.

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Faendar
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When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Faendar » Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:56 pm

Fight had been going on for a while. We killed 2 earlier, then they went inside to regroup and gather numbers. We won a round before the FC arrived, then they hit us again at Burnt after she was here. She had been weaving me so I was hyper-aware of my HPS but even so, I was wounded when I hit bash, then dead before I made another action.

I feel like fleeing super earlier isn't really viable - should I have re-entered to try and get on the FC?


* HP:Wounded MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
Your body is pierced by razor sharp ice spikes sent by *Morella*!

* HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
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Pharazon tries to pierce *Doyl*, but he deflects the blow.
Ghast tries to pierce *Morella*, but she deflects the blow.
Killinger pierces *Trang*'s right arm.
*Badd* tries to pierce Zunaguk, but he deflects the blow.

* HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered > [bash ]

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*Badd* avoids being bashed by Zunaguk who loses his balance and falls!

=+
*
*Badd* looks at Zunaguk.


Pharazon tries to pierce *Doyl*, but he deflects the blow.
*Doyl* tries to slash Kombat, but he deflects the blow.
*Draz* pounds Byrg's body.
*Draz* pounds Kombat's left leg into bloody fragments!
*Waylon* barely slashes your body.
Ghast tries to pierce *Morella*, but she parries successfully.
Killinger tries to pierce *Trang*, but he parries successfully.
*Badd* tries to pierce Zunaguk, but he deflects the blow.
*Waylon* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!

* HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >

Pharazon narrates 'diyl beat'

* HP:Battered MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >

Ouch! That Really did HURT!

You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

Your body is pierced by razor sharp ice spikes sent by *Morella*!

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
*Trang* sends Killinger sprawling with a powerful bash!

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
Pharazon pierces *Doyl*'s body very hard.
*Doyl* panics, and attempts to flee!
*Badd* tries to pierce Zunaguk, but he deflects the blow.
Byrg assumes an offensive striking posture.

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
*Doyl* leaves west riding a warhorse.

nar I out soon FC weaving me <- I had typed this before I saw her ultra-painful spike that took me from batt to crit.
* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
wmp
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Kombat panics, and attempts to flee!

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
*Waylon* barely slashes your body.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

*Trang* strikes Killinger's left arm into bloody fragments!
Ghast tries to pierce *Morella*, but she deflects the blow.
*Badd* tries to pierce Zunaguk, but he parries successfully.
Pharazon tries to pierce *Waylon*, but he parries successfully.

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
Kombat leaves west. <<

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >

*Doyl* has arrived from the west, riding a warhorse.

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >

*Doyl* tries to slash Pharazon, but he parries successfully.

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* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >

Kombat has arrived from the west.

* HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Waylon: Battered >
Pharazon tries to pierce *Waylon*, but he parries successfully.
*Badd* tries to pierce Zunaguk, but he deflects the blow.
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
A flurry of icy spikes sent by Morella is the last thing you ever see.
You are dead! Sorry...
You stop following Byrg.
Circle of Darkness
[ obvious exits: N E S W U D ]
(wotmudmapper): (error): No matches found.
A lantern has been left here. [2]
A revolting well bubbles with the blood of the sacrificed.
A large slab of meat has been placed here. [8]
Dead men tell no tales...

Weir
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Weir » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:31 pm

That was a losing face-off right off the bat by the looks of the log. Out of the 7? of you, only a rogue was on the channeler and not a single one of the 4 bashers. That is just free reign for her to target whoever she wishes, and you were the unlucky recipient. The call needs to be made very quickly in a fight like this if no one is bashing the channeler on the other side to either switch around to re-target, flee off and regroup, etc., or a loss is only going to be prevented by overwhelming the other side fast enough for the channeler to not turn the fight.

In this case, it looks to be 6 LS v 7 DS, with no one super obviously low and fleeing around. Fleeing super early might not be the easy call, but once you eat that first spike and are probably fairly obviously behind on the bash timing based on where the log starts, I think you needed to flee instead of rolling that first bash, and maybe come back in and roll a bash by name on the FC.

Eol
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Eol » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:03 am

Different thing, similar topic. Did you have an alias set for kill Morella?

You're in a fight. Let's say its 5 on 5. You are on the FC - you get a bash off and hit her a couple of times. She flees the room.

What you do next is very important. The heart of group fights is that there's often a lot of value in immediately engaging someone else. Sometimes you engage and get the pleasure of free hits on a bashed dodger. In general, it gives you the chance to double up on someone though it may also expose you to a basher who engages you that you aren't directly bashing who you now have to bash manually with name targetting if you want to try and keep them from bashing you...

But if the numbers are roughly even and the FC flees - you need be spamming for her by name. Some people might chase her. Others might just be spam waiting to try and get back on her. But if you simply hit kill human you will double up on someone, but the FC will reenter and have free reign.

This was a hilariously common experience back when berserk warriors were the thing. Everyone would berserk. The FC would flee - her opponent would be spamming kill human and engage on someone else and now the FC can spike whoever she wants. Everyone is berserk so no one can flee to reengage.

Kombat
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Kombat » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:06 am

She came in after the initial faceoff, was a bad fight for us all around.

Doyl
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Doyl » Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:12 am

Hard to generate a ton of sympathy for you guys when you are running around with the king of darken. Seems like a lot of bitching about what your opponents do to you but not much consideration of how that flows both ways (that's not directed at you faen).

Eol
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Eol » Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:08 am

Darken is also very clearly broken in exactly the same way it was broken in the past. It needs to be removed from the game again.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12570

isabel
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by isabel » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:15 pm

#1 reason why i hate playing a trolloc. fleelag + getting bashed + channies in room to nuke even wounded hps. eol has given good advice. dont have much to add except to say that the bash + channeler combination is sometimes v easy to underestimate.

btw byrg doesn't look engaged on anyone in this - maybe he was trying to weave and failing?!

Kombat
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Kombat » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:23 pm

I wasn't "bitching" I was saying it was a bad fight, but you do you.

Doyl
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Doyl » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Wasn't directed at you either

Lisennet
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Re: When FC's weave, you die.

Post by Lisennet » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:04 pm

Ok.
Fire coalesces into a ball at your hands, which you launch at *Zilla*.

* HP:Battered SP:Good MV:Tiring - Zilla: Wounded >
A fade tries to slash you, but you parry successfully.
You swiftly dodge a hideous trolloc's attempt to cleave you.
A hideous trolloc tries to cleave you, but you dodge the attack.
A hideous trolloc tries to cleave you, but you deflect the blow.
You barely strike *Zilla*'s body.

* HP:Battered SP:Good MV:Tiring - Zilla: Wounded >
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channel 'fireball' h.dark

*Zilla* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash!
You panic and attempt to flee!


A beaked trolloc joins a hideous trolloc's fight!
A wolfish trolloc has arrived from the east.
A wolfish trolloc crushes your right hand very hard.

A wolfish trolloc tries to crush you, but you deflect the blow.
A beaked trolloc tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
A fade slashes your body very hard.
A hideous trolloc cleaves your body very hard.
A hideous trolloc cleaves your body into bloody fragments!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

A hideous trolloc cleaves your left arm extremely hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

*someone* crushes your left leg into bloody fragments!
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Ouch! You lose a level.

When bashers bash, FCs die.

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