Why is this possible...

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Dixon
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Why is this possible...

Post by Dixon » Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:32 pm

A Quiet Library
This is the library of Fal Dara. Although large it can not be compared
to the libraries of Tar Valon, and Caemlyn. Large shelves containing
hundreds of books stand against the wall. Tables are lined up in neat
rows so people can sit down and read.
[ obvious exits: S ]
*Codpiece* is standing here.
A tactician's clerk tallies fallen enemies here.
A hardened soldier catalogues the Shienaran Lancer armory.
A librarian peers at you.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong >
3

*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

3
* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
3
[k dark]
You do the best you can!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > A sergeant bellows 'Rally the forces, the dreadlords approach!'
A sergeant bellows 'The myrddraal Kryyg has been spotted!'
A sergeant bellows 'The myrddraal Kryyg has been spotted!'
A sergeant bellows 'The myrddraal Kryyg has been spotted!'
[k dark]
You do the best you can!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > [k dark]
You do the best you can!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > You try to scythe *Codpiece*, but he parries successfully.
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster joins your fight!
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
[k dark]
You do the best you can!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
3
3
[k dark]
You do the best you can!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > *Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
[k dark]
You do the best you can!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
b
[bash ]

-=+*
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he parries successfully.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

*+=-
*Codpiece* says ']QgL'

-
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

=
As *Codpiece* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he parries successfully.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
smile

The librarydoor closes quietly.

l s
* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > You smile happily.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > The librarydoor is closed.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
b

Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he deflects the blow.
You try to scythe *Codpiece*, but he parries successfully.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > [bash ]

-=
*Codpiece* shrugs helplessly.

+**+=
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

-
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he deflects the blow.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

-=
As *Codpiece* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Codpiece* says 'wOUr xkok'

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
shrug

The library door swings open.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he dodges the attack.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
cpo
You shrug.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > [change posture offensive]
Posture changed to: Offensive

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
r
f
[change mood wimpy]
Mood changed to: Wimpy

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
east
You panic and attempt to flee!

east
*Codpiece* closes the librarydoor.
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
r
f

Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he parries successfully.
You try to scythe *Codpiece*, but he parries successfully.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > [change mood wimpy]
Mood changed to: Wimpy

east
* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > *Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
PANIC! You couldn't escape!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
The librarydoor is opened from the other side.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Horror* has arrived from the south.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Codpiece* closes the librarydoor.
*Horror* tries to stab you, but you deflect the blow.
*Razhak* opens the librarydoor.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Codpiece* closes the librarydoor.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Razhak* tries to scythe you, but you deflect the blow.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
say thats dumb
You say 'thats dumb'

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Razhak* tries to scythe you, but you deflect the blow.
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he deflects the blow.
You try to scythe *Codpiece*, but he dodges the attack.
*Codpiece* pierces your body hard.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
say as firetruck
You say 'as firetruck'

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Codpiece* smiles at you.

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

PANIC! You couldn't escape!
You gasp in pain as streaks of fire from *Horror* burn your body!

* HP:Beaten MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
say enjoy i guess
*Razhak* scythes your right leg hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

PANIC! You couldn't escape!
*Horror* tries to stab you, but you parry successfully.
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he deflects the blow.
You try to scythe *Codpiece*, but he parries successfully.
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
You say 'enjoy i guess'

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
The library door closes quietly.

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
r
[change mood wimpy]
Mood changed to: Wimpy

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

PANIC! You couldn't escape!
You gasp in pain as streaks of fire from *Horror* burn your body!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Razhak* scythes your right leg.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

PANIC! You couldn't escape!
*Horror* tries to stab you, but you deflect the blow.
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he parries successfully.
You try to scythe *Codpiece*, but he deflects the blow.
*Codpiece* pierces your right leg.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

PANIC! You couldn't escape!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
say open door
You say 'open door'

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
east
east
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

f
* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
east
east
The library door swings open.
*Codpiece* closes the librarydoor.
PANIC! You couldn't escape!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched > *Razhak* tries to scythe you, but you parry successfully.
Masuto the Lancer quartermaster tries to pound Codpiece, but he parries successfully.
You scythe *Codpiece*'s left arm into bloody fragments!
*Codpiece* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* HP:Critical MV:Strong - Codpiece: Scratched >
east

You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
Your screams die away as streaks of Fire from Horror devour your flesh.
You are dead! Sorry...

Kryyg
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Kryyg » Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:43 pm

Certainly annoying but should probably never be any permanent doors like this. All clan rooms should have a way out or an autokick out. Alternatively, you shouldn't be able to go in with no-quit. Should be no safe rooms or free kill rooms in my opinion.

Razhak
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Razhak » Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:44 pm

You opened the door, Codpiece chased you in (your log starts in an odd place where it looks like he was already inside, but that wasnt the case). Then you didnt close the door properly, so we could get in after you.

Clandoors, as has been said in the past are only safe, as long as you dont open them for your opponents ;)

isabel
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by isabel » Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:57 pm

@Razhak - looks like codpiece said 'open door' there and it opened. Though maybe he was just saying kryyg sucks! who knows

I don't think akkad etc opens like this, haven't checked
Kryyg wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:43 pm
Should be no safe rooms or free kill rooms in my opinion.
Every time you kill me it's a free kill :( Nice flee trapping there. Thought I was fine with wounded 85 abs but alas. Moblead being broken did not help. And I completely missed seeing the two R7 mobs I think i could used to break at least your block.

Crusunte
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Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:49 pm

Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Crusunte » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:04 pm

isabel wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:57 pm
@Razhak - looks like codpiece said 'open door' there and it opened. Though maybe he was just saying kryyg sucks! who knows
I tried another one before hitting the right syntax, but that's correct. I could be remembering wrong, but I was resting at Akkad not too long ago after the Dha'vol who let me in buggered off somewhere and I was able to get out. In general, clan doors being opened from the inside by anyone is a relatively common feature, can think of several that work this way off-hand. Better off treating it like a normal door rather than wasting time smiling and thinking you've got yourself a free kill if someone chases you in.

Benito
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Benito » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:47 pm

Lancer rent used to be like this, then got changed years ago to only respond to voice commands from humans. There isn’t a way to control how this one closes as far as I know.

Adael
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Adael » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:49 pm

Ghar clan rent will understand humans and open the door. I used our clan rent once to trap a human while a group was hitting Blarg, only for him to open the door and have the group come in to kill me :(
Benito wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:47 pm
Lancer rent used to be like this, then got changed years ago to only respond to voice commands from humans.
Should be changed back to be consistent with other clan rents then!

Benito
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Benito » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:07 pm

Eh, I’ve never liked the clunkiness and unpredictability of mobol doors. I’d rather see them removed entirely or turned into locked/spammables, like DS clan areas. Main problem is you don’t want to just turn them into DTs if the rents get camped. The Ghar rent should be changed back. Terrible idea to make it Mobol!

Sounds painful to have a group hit you in clan room hope I wasn’t there buddy :) :) :)

Eol
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by Eol » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:23 pm

Aureus answered it in another thread - these should all be predictable/consistent. I would personally also like to see the number of mobs in these sort of doors be predictable. In a similar vein - Lancer rent and Lancer storage both use different words to open the door.

arston
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Re: Why is this possible...

Post by arston » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:02 am

Still feel like u should have to kill a mob to get a key to get out, you shouldnt be able to just walk into a heavily fortified base of operations, kill the guy u want, and walk out expecting them to hold the door open for you. In the books even the Dragon Reborn was of going into the white tower where he could get overwhelmed.

In game this could translate to needing a small strike force of like 2 or three people that would be strong enough to kill the patty with a key and fight your way out.

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