this is what pk has become

[Reyne]

95% of people get salty and say something when they die. Not always in here, not always in Discord. Sometimes just ranting to their cat.

I dunno what the point of getting all personal insult about it is.

I would be thankful none of them slept or charged. She would have been better off not bashing and taking the 3x multiplier one the spike.

I thought Itesh looked at the code and said there is no additional damage from weaves on bashed/sitting/sleeping targets? Or was that just for bashed?


Anyway look instead of everyone just decrying the state of PK in the North let's just see what went wrong and how to counter. Most of the frustration can be cut out if we stop expecting our opponents to give us honorable duels, anyway.

Stab timer is 16, sleep is 25. The problem is walking back in on an FC which is something you don't want to do because they will let their weave run and let it smash you. I've died to this many times, and it wasn't a sleep that did it. I've gotten a few kills like that, too. It's the same principle of you don't want to let a stabber start the timer on you, then exit the room, and then walk right back into it.

Otherwise, sleep doesn't work on engaged so you just need to watch out for sneak entrances. Really shouldn't be standing still mid PK without throwing out a look in the span of 25 pulses anyway.

And sometimes, just accept you're going to get killed no matter what you do. It is the nature of the game and no one is invulnerable.

[isabel]

So much crying from people in this game. It’s a real shame. I’ve seen preschool kids with greater self motivation with less woe is me.

I think Isabel is posting at a rate of once every other day whining or complaining about something that happened or can happen in the game. I can’t imagine how you handle walking down the sidewalk.

I think you're missing some of my posts if you think I post every OTHER day. Read carefully! I can't imagine how you handle walking down the sidewalk when you don't seem to read a computer screen properly.

[Ragnus]

So much crying from people in this game. It’s a real shame. I’ve seen preschool kids with greater self motivation with less woe is me.

I think Isabel is posting at a rate of once every other day whining or complaining about something that happened or can happen in the game. I can’t imagine how you handle walking down the sidewalk.

I think you're missing some of my posts if you think I post every OTHER day. Read carefully! I can't imagine how you handle walking down the sidewalk when you don't seem to read a computer screen properly.

Care to rage quit off into the sunset again? I hope you don’t, typically I like to see progress from extended breaks. I think we all know your MO by now so my exaggeration in your posting
might have been excessive.

[isabel]

I wouldn't say it induces rage - it does make me sad that a few people can and do deliberately sabotage an otherwise fun atmosphere with their shitty behaviour.

Sounds like it bothers you that I am actually vocal about what the toxic behaviour does to this game.

Don't like what I have to say? Don't read it. There's a 'block' button. Instead of (to use the kind of language you're familiar with) crying and whining about it every single time I post.

[Ragnus]

Well I would say it doesn’t bother me. It’s actually pretty funny to be honest that this game frustrates people and get them this worked up. And my post was more generalization of a base of players who cry or whine a lot. It just so happened that I used you as the recent example. You can at least be honest about it though. You have posted a bunch recently about how you will
Issue warrants, prac or pk certain ways as revenge, wanted pk that involved eq returns or no looting. Anyways, as for posting every single time you cry & whine, that’s factually not true as this is the first time I engaged and used you as an example. As you may see by how many times I actually post, it’s not often. Anyways, I wish you luck on constant eq returns and “fair” pk to your liking.

[isabel]

The issue warrants etc was a joke! How do you cross the street without a sense of humour???

I also wish you good luck with expecting that you and whoever else will pull annoying crap, and everybody will either put up with it, or quit the game quietly.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

[Razhak]

I like Beer

[Draz]

Isabel I'm not quite sure what your issue here is.

Kazi takes a lot of risks, but also will not pk in a style where a solo fc can kill him (in my experience).

The channie took a risk (there is no way in that specific situation of not being open to him landing a stab, that would typically kill her).

Its a risk she gets to pull off once before DS wise up to a new sleep stabber messing around.

It was something like 10 tics and not a single person ran up in that timeframe, or was willing and able to reprac stab or charge.

I'd love to know the consensus on the 3x damage from weaves - I wasn't under the impression it was a thing. Potentially if that was the case then having the basher ready to zerk bash, announcing weave starting, weave, weave weave etc. As it was there is a high chance of him stacking up panicked commands during the moments of the first bash and eating weave damage and being blind - and his response was pretty much dead on perfect (and lucky, and it looks like humans didn't spam).

Isabel people not letting others pk, or insisting that pk be within an exact framework, is a large part of the problem as you well know, just as significant as people getting upset of returns or lack thereof, grouping issues, cancertrio, personal vendettas, planned ganks and traps, etc.

I don't think Fermin was online fyi - or you would have been dead. :)

[Draz]

Razhak - No! You must not like beer!

[byrg]

I like Beer

I do not.