Feedback request: July temp changes.

[Elysia]

Various people have told me they loved the narrating trolloc/Shienaran scouts to help start pk.

I'm curious to know whether this change was felt to be so beneficial that it should be permanent or not?

[Horror]

Always thought good temp changes should become permanent. Yes to this one.

[Benjain]

Yes definitely.

[Rark]

For sure

[krul]

I never used them and my experience was that people's behaviour / laziness didn't change. You have the trolloc scout blight and FD alarm already, not to mention flocks and ragan/gap pigeons, added crutches just allow people to pretend to want pk with even less effort. They are probably most useful for DS given that you are almost always out of range of RK and ravenmaster, but a better solution for that is just to make the ravenmaster narrate his reports instead of yelling them, which would coincidentally benefit anyone somehow attempting to start west PK via flocks and might also cure trollocs of the impulse to afk blacksmith.

[deimos]

I think they're very handy in getting some pk started, especially late at night when there is only 1 or 2 people on DS. Only thing I would change is to give the LS scouts a little more HP. I've hit them a few times and actually had to let them heal before I could hit again because I nearly killed it before his growl could go off.

[Mangler]

Very good for PK as noted.

My only suggestion would maybe if you could load another one nearby so if they do somehow die you can hit another one too! Also I'm not 100% sure on this but it seems when you're on one side they narrate more than they seem to from the other side's perspective.

I.E I see 5 or 6 narrates when I'm on LS of a trolloc in the gap, but when I'm on DS It seems it takes a while to growl. Not sure if that's an issue with how it triggers in regards to the growl.

Either way a great change.

Also bring back the no channel near stout.

Also bring back warhorses in FD.

But that's another thread.

[Lykan]

I never used them and my experience was that people's behaviour / laziness didn't change. You have the trolloc scout blight and FD alarm already, not to mention flocks and ragan/gap pigeons, added crutches just allow people to pretend to want pk with even less effort. They are probably most useful for DS given that you are almost always out of range of RK and ravenmaster, but a better solution for that is just to make the ravenmaster narrate his reports instead of yelling them, which would coincidentally benefit anyone somehow attempting to start west PK via flocks and might also cure trollocs of the impulse to afk blacksmith.

I rather agree with this.

[deimos]

......but a better solution for that is just to make the ravenmaster narrate his reports instead of yelling them, which would coincidentally benefit anyone somehow attempting to start west PK via flocks and might also cure trollocs of the impulse to afk blacksmith.

I rather agree with this.

Gotta throw my hat in on anything that promotes west pk. Anybody who was involved in the 'good ol' days' of western pk all agree it was some of the best. More narrating reports (or a scout report in SH *cough*) for DS would be good. Many times, there are only 1-3 trolls on DS at a time (late night after boot) and we if we had more of an idea where humans were, there might be more actionable raids.

[Ragyn]

Also just the fact that these new scouts are instant helps alot, the delay on ravenmaster/scout master really does a lot, also with the chance of not being in RK/FD at the time of the report.