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Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:58 am
by Elysia
For your entertainment, here are some of the responses from people who fell for this year's April Fools joke. The merging of LS and SS has been on my mind for a few years, but it's not really physically possible without coding help. When I have a spot of time this weekend, I'll write down why. Meanwhile, enjoy:

Spyder hisses 'i'
Spyder hisses 'WOW'
Spyder hisses 'no more ss'

Viktor chats <h> 'well....that looks interesting heh'
Viktor chats <h> 'Im looking forward to seeing how the transition plays out. Hopefully itll be smooth, and condesnse the playerbase as it seems is intended.'
Viktor chats <h> 'i dont think the seanchan race's homelands and stat chances are going to make the change, theyre just going to allow ss to choose a new homeland, from the ls group'

Reil chats <h> 'Would have been against this change awhile ago, but that was before anyone who was going to leave because of any changes to the side left with the nuking of Seandar. Also, who doesn't love some "roleplay bond"age?'
Reil chats <h> 'I'm just seeing this as an opportunity to fix the fuckup of selecting Tzura and Shon Kifar as homelands on my old seanchan characters.

Wept narrates <t> 'wat up'
Spyder narrates <t> 'ss are being merged to LS'
Spyder narrates <t> 'nuff said'
Wept narrates <t> 'when'
Spyder narrates <t> 'http://forums.wotmud.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2018'
Wept narrates <t> 'april fools :P'
Equitant narrates <t> 'Its about time. Low player base needs to force action' <--- Playing along nicely!
You tell Wept 'sshhhhh!'
Wept narrates <t> 'oh dung nm maybe this is for real' <--- Also playing along nicely!
Spyder narrates <t> 'this would be pretty fuckign stupid if it was april fools joke'
Spyder narrates <t> 'i think els 100% on this'
Wept narrates <t> 'and it's not april 1 yet'
Spyder narrates <t> 'it is here in australia :P'
*edit for some non on-topic stuff*
Spyder narrates <t> 'ely is this ss thing an april fools joke ?'
Wept narrates <t> 'supposedly it's legit'
Zeeb narrates <t> 'what is it?'
Wept narrates <t> ''http://forums.wotmud.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2018''
You wizshout <t> 'It's not. It's still March.'. <--- Or it was for the USA, anyway!
Zeeb narrates <t> 'ah that is cool'

XXX tells you 'since we're all humans, can i move the entrance of Tekela's rank 8 rooms!?'
You tell XXX 'She'd still be clanned SS, so no'
XXX tells you 'haha i know, i was mostly kidding. excited to maybe even play those characters again though.'

Mckale chats <h> 'Seander homelands for ls, finally'
Mckale chats <h> 'my new 19 18 18 19 19 hunter is ready'

Meanwhile, on Red Eagle forums:
Unread postby isktamost ยป Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:38 am
OK, so...where do we stand? To my knowledge the Red Eagles have NEVER been involved in a CLAN WAR, we've had disagreements and high tensions, but never a clan war...not sure if I like the idea or not. It would seem that it's going to end up as Us, *oL, CW, and S&H vs the 4 SS clans...

We also are going to have to work out new warranting rules and regulations, training on how and when to warrant, and monitor warrants issued. I'm not liking this at all...

Give me some input here, guys. And Dreanger, if you don't have anything intelligent to say on the matter, please say nothing until you actually start playing your Eagle.

In conversation with Cynthiel:
(11:11:02) Rukh told you: so do you have much understanding of the new change to ss coming?
(11:11:29) You told Rukh: Ely and I talked it over and I pitched some ideas -- but no I think only 103+ really know details.
(11:11:48) Rukh told you: not to sure how this is supposed to work...we can smob with ls but we can't kill them what? lol seems really weird
(11:12:21) Rukh told you: where's our qps supposed to come from? ds? we have like 0 mob support up there
(11:12:36) Rukh told you: will all ls mobs aggro us still?
(11:12:40) You told Rukh: Well many clans of course have same side wars. Like Tower vs *oL, Wingers vs DOTS, etc.
(11:12:57) You told Rukh: As for the rest, you'll need to ask Ely. Or maybe she'll do an update today/tomorrow.
(11:13:06) You told Rukh: Alright I really need to run. Enjoy the rest of your day.
(11:13:20) Rukh told you: You as well thanks again
(11:13:35) You told Rukh: Happy to help.

On Facebook:
Aaron Esparza Woah!
So If I have a SS char, will he be able to keep his "drawl"? I suppose I could "em" it like Valar.

Nicholas Allen Hetrick I...kinda like this...

LIKE!

Andrew Murphy This sounds like exactly the direction the game should be going. Drew gives a round of applause.

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:38 am
by Eol
I look forward to April Fool's day just for these hijinks.

You lost me at the damane part though :)

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:16 pm
by varcoz
In the back of my mind I thought this was a april's fools. I had mixed feelings though, not to sure it wouldn't be a bad idea. Given I'm generally the only one on this dang side often :( It would of been nice to at least see who was on to kill heh.

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:33 pm
by Paj
Such a great idea with so much thought put into it. I'd bet a lot of players would go for it too.

Shame it's another joke. So much promise for the games future/survival and no follow through.

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:31 pm
by Dimmu
This was so obvious I can't believe anyone would be suckered in! Elysia would make a good snake-oil saleswoman though ;)

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:03 pm
by Elysia
As may have been obvious, the thought of merging SS and LS has been something that's been on my mind for some time. However, the ideas as outlined in April 1st's post are not remotely possible, which is why the whole idea is not feasible in that form.
  • Changing all Seanchan character's races manually would just be ugh. We have no way of telling how many Seanchan characters there even are and chances are people would return in a year or 2 and still need to be changed. The command also requires a 104, which severely limits this.
  • If all Seanchan would show up as "the severed head of Varcoz the Human slain in Two Rivers", all LS clans' scalp awarding mobol would have to be changed. The potential for abuse would be huge, since you could turn in reset scalps for qps. A check for being wanted only works as long as "Varcoz" would still be online, so that comes with its own huge set of problems.
  • All mobs such as kaf and chokevines, but als clanned mobs like Red Eagle mobs and all SS mobs would have to be changed in how they aggro. Their aggro would have to be mobolled instead of being dependent on race, which would add a lot of work for the server.
  • We really don't have the imms available to do anything like this.
Basically, this could only work if it was accomplished through coding, so Seanchan would still be "Varcoz the Seanchan slain in", which would fix the aggro and scalp awarding issues. Through that coding change they would get access to LS who, narrates, globals and all restrictions wrt leading and grouping would be removed. There would also have to be a k enemy command for DS.

However, if I could pick any coding change to be done right now, it would be a remort option for LS/SS, since that would be something that would affect many, many more players and provide more players with an incentive to play. So don't hold your breath that this LS/SS merger will happen.

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:06 pm
by Vaen
Wasn't the removal of Seandar an April Fool's joke before it happened like two or three years later? Looking forward to seeing this change in 2019!

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:20 pm
by Elysia
Vaen wrote:Wasn't the removal of Seandar an April Fool's joke before it happened like two or three years later? Looking forward to seeing this change in 2019!
Not as far as I remember. The removal of Seanchan because they were "obviously a failed idea", yes. Not removal of Seandar.

Two others were the re-release of Nassti and imms getting compensated for their work here. There must've been one or two others, but I didn't save all of them.

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:27 am
by Iskveri
Why would anybody ever believe this anymore? I mean, it's literally the same joke you've run for years. The first thing I thought on reading it was "Wow, are they just copy/pasting that every year?"

Re: Feedbak re: Seanchan and LS merger.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:47 am
by Ragyn
Yeah, Elysia you are terrible for running a joke on April Fool's day, and not even coming up with something more creative... the mud is truly terrible.