Wheel of Time Season 3

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Artorias
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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Artorias » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:29 am

Evee wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:37 am
Rhavin's timeline feels wrong. Didn't the newer batch of forsaken get released at the end of season 2? Yet Elaine and Rhavin act like they've known each other for some time.
He is using compulsion on them. He even mentions it himself when Lanfear makes a comment about how fast he moved.

Evee
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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Evee » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:21 pm

That's right. Thanks! Well that's at least one pebble on the pile of problems I can remove. 8-)

Katherine
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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Katherine » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:11 pm

Artorias wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:29 am
Evee wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:37 am
Rhavin's timeline feels wrong. Didn't the newer batch of forsaken get released at the end of season 2? Yet Elaine and Rhavin act like they've known each other for some time.
He is using compulsion on them. He even mentions it himself when Lanfear makes a comment about how fast he moved.
Bringing Rahvin in this early may just be part of accelerating the timeline. The events in TDR arent nearly as dense as they are in TGH. So they might have decided to move Rahvin's timeline up in order to leave room in Season 4 for events in later books, possibly combining TSR and FoH (or maybe even LoC) into a single season. Its hard to say, they are just as likely to dress up Rand in a zebra costume so he can prance about the isle of mad men for a season.

In the books, Gaebril doesnt appear until FoH (two books from now) after all the events in Tear and Rhuidean have already happened and that's also the first time Elayne runs into him. He doesnt have to weave compulsion on anyone except Morgase with rare exception because his backstory for arriving in Caemlyn and getting the Queen to trust him is pretty solid. His compulsion weaves are also not without problems. Morgase breaks the compulsion at least once, so strong willed individuals may not be as easy to control as others. For that reason, Rahvin might've just focused all his energy on one person, the only one that mattered.

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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Chloro » Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:26 pm

I have some mixed feelings over episode 4. However, I am glad to see finally a manipulative Aes Sedai in work in episode 3. Elaida doing what she did to Tutswana was a master class in being a political Aes Sedai. Smooth, thought out, and executed with little to no effort. I cannot wait to see how the writing for her continues. I hope, I love to hate her as much as I did in the books!

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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by halfhand » Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:10 pm

Episode 4 was a good episode. It got all the right beats with the Glass Columns and even Moiraine's sequence that was essentially cribbed from the doorway was well shot. My biggest complaint is that some of the scenes are way too dark to see at some point, but this applies to a lot of TV series right now unfortunately.
Obviously some of the Aiel shots are more for the emotional impact and have to turn the brain off on the logistics (how does two people create millions of ancestors, they're more likely to just die off than find other survivors of the same situation).
One of the few sequences that really got the sense of generational tragedy that RJ was aiming for.

The Sarkanen looks like is going to replace the access keys which is a little sad as the paired Choedran Kal would be much more visual feast and deeper world building rather than just a generic crystal ball.

I do find it weird how this show is all about lesbian sex scenes, but when people are actually supposed to be naked for plot reasons that they're just going to ignore it.

Katherine
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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Katherine » Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:30 pm

halfhand wrote:
Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:10 pm
Episode 4 was a good episode. It got all the right beats with the Glass Columns and even Moiraine's sequence that was essentially cribbed from the doorway was well shot. My biggest complaint is that some of the scenes are way too dark to see at some point, but this applies to a lot of TV series right now unfortunately.
Obviously some of the Aiel shots are more for the emotional impact and have to turn the brain off on the logistics (how does two people create millions of ancestors, they're more likely to just die off than find other survivors of the same situation).
One of the few sequences that really got the sense of generational tragedy that RJ was aiming for.
This episode stands on its own as the most accurate book adaptation so far. Lets say, 85% accurate. There are bits that were adapted or scenes merged, but I'm not going to get too worked up about it. When Lanfear's team finally breaches the Dark One's prison and the sphere drops leaving behind that black "crack in the sky", does it seem like it has a digital feel too it? Like the writers want the wheel of time to have Tron feels. Next episode, we are introduced to the Master Control Program, er, I mean the "Dark One". ;)

We are missing a very important story arc that I dont think the writers should have left out and it doesnt bode well for Moiraine's future story arc either---Mat was supposed to enter Rhuidean with Rand. In fact that vision that Min had of Mat being hanged was from Rhuidean. This is one of the first time we really get to learn about the foxes (eelfinn) and its a critical plot point for Mat's character. Its where he receives a specific item that becomes really important later in the story especially for Moiraine's story. This is a story arc the writers should not have messed with. In fact an entire book later in the series is named after the *Towers of Midnight* that are part of this story arc.

Honestly, Mat is truly the abused hero of this series. His character development has basically been water-downed and twisted so much that he's just completely unlikable in the show, yet in the books, he's easily a fan favorite. He is the favorite anti-Hero of the Horn, but right now, nobody would miss him if he disappeared from the show. That's really a shame.

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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Amarea » Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:03 pm

Katherine wrote:
Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:30 pm
We are missing a very important story arc that I dont think the writers should have left out and it doesnt bode well for Moiraine's future story arc either---Mat was supposed to enter Rhuidean with Rand. In fact that vision that Min had of Mat being hanged was from Rhuidean. This is one of the first time we really get to learn about the foxes (eelfinn) and its a critical plot point for Mat's character. Its where he receives a specific item that becomes really important later in the story especially for Moiraine's story. This is a story arc the writers should not have messed with. In fact an entire book later in the series is named after the *Towers of Midnight* that are part of this story arc.

Honestly, Mat is truly the abused hero of this series. His character development has basically been water-downed and twisted so much that he's just completely unlikable in the show, yet in the books, he's easily a fan favorite. He is the favorite anti-Hero of the Horn, but right now, nobody would miss him if he disappeared from the show. That's really a shame.
From the rumors I remember hearing, the Finn will minimally be in the final 1-2 episodes of this season, and I am pretty sure they will be porting a lot of that storyline to later in this season with a ter'angreal doorway, and having Nynaeve interact with him instead. The foreshadowing for that was pretty heavy in a few of the episodes.

I am hopeful they will add in more screen time for Nynaeve this season that involves her gaining at least some control over her channeling, as I feel like she has been particularly helpless in some episodes (e.g., S2E8, S3E1), and I really wish there was more nuance to her block already.

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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Katherine » Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:50 pm

Amarea wrote:
Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:03 pm
From the rumors I remember hearing, the Finn will minimally be in the final 1-2 episodes of this season, and I am pretty sure they will be porting a lot of that storyline to later in this season with a ter'angreal doorway, and having Nynaeve interact with him instead. The foreshadowing for that was pretty heavy in a few of the episodes.
There is a scene in which Rand and Perrin are playing a game of Snakes and Foxes in close-up. Episode 1 00:25:34 for anyone interested.

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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by halfhand » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:07 am

I think one problem with show Mat is that they are making so much changes to him, that they are going to struggle with a coherent and inconsistent character. I acknowledge that they had to make changes due to the actor changes. Everything from his family to how he gets his memory, his ruby dagger ashenderai, being unreliable (ditching the group which yes, is due to the actor dropping out). With more and more changes, it just becomes more of an imitation of a character.

This episode proves that when you lean into the books and let it shine and make only enough screen-worthy changes, you get good results and good ratings.

I hope they learned their lessons and give Matt's Tanchico episode what he needs. Because this potentially could be their last season.

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Re: Wheel of Time Season 3

Post by Kryyg » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:21 pm

Terrible as expected.

Min is ugly. Faile is ugly. Both their acting sucks.

Disappointing but i'm hoping that this is the first iteration. Kind of like Batman being re-made a bunch. Hopefully someone will re-make this. Someone who read the books and isn't trying to HBO sexualize everything, that was a GOT thing that was present in the books too. WoT had some but nothing on the level of GOT or how the show runners are trying to make it. Just looks forced. Why cant Amazon just have some skinimax shows that start after 10pm and just leave WoT for good story telling?!

I did think the Rhuidien scene of Rand was done well but I can't imagine non-readers followed it closely or understood. At least not yet. Why would someone tear out their eyes because of following the way of the leaf? Excessive. Rand being gay in one of the memories is just blah. Did his descendants end in that generation? Did he utilize a surrogate to have children? Adopted children? Is the blood still strong in them?! So many more questions now.

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