Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

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Eol
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Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by Eol » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:34 am

Maybe this is explained somewhere else, but a lot of interesting and useful things are very affordable to store while very basic weapons seem comparatively expensive.

5. 1 item stored for 418 days, 273 gold crowns and 15 coppers rent due.
a long-hilted backsword

Lohvo
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Re: Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by Lohvo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:10 am

This is crazy how the mud hive mind works. I was thinking of this about 2 hours ago looking at the same sword in your example and a claymore right underneath it. I was like "How are these swords sucky and so expensive?". I sold it for rent credit.

Auriona
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Re: Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by Auriona » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:56 pm

Make basic sets and trinks free, keep the rate the same for rares.

Feneon
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Re: Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by Feneon » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:02 pm

We spent some time a year or two ago reducing the cost of items in rent, but if an item is stored before that adjustment, it retains the value of deposit cost.

This one looks about the rent cost as claymore, but maybe that's still high?

gok
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Re: Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by gok » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:31 pm

Just don’t be poor 8-) When I last played there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to the rent costs. For example a heron scabbard was free to rent but a mallet was about 1 crown a day. Shimmering chains and clan trinkets were free but opals cost rent. Ornates we’re free but shining plates were near a gold a day. They also seem to change all the time war mauls used to be free now they are really expensive. The other option is just have R8 storage, storage characters or use your clan rent and store gold in backpacks when you need to h/h Then you don’t need to worry. The other option is deposit the receipt you get from the master blacksmith when you hardened the weapon (this is basically free to rent).

Eol
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Re: Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by Eol » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:30 pm

I'm not claiming these are enormous amounts of money, but there is a value consideration where they may exceed what a player would be willing to pay for them. For the purposes of jumping back into the game - you have to have a weapon. You don't have to have a gold ring.

If it were up to players, we'd obviously pay nothing so Imms and players may never see perfectly eye to eye on this. The real issue to me is - the higher the cost the more it incentivizes a player to simply store the item on an alt.

And as already pointed out - usually using the blacksmith receipt feature dodges this price.

o HP:Healthy MV:Full > offer claymore
The trolloc keeper tells you, ' 60 copper for a great claymore.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'Initial deposit is 1 gold crown and 10 coppers payable now. It will cost you 1 gold crown and 10 coppers per day, due at withdraw.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'I will take the deposit out of your credit.'

o HP:Healthy MV:Full > offer axe
The trolloc keeper tells you, ' 60 copper for a titanic spiked axe of ebon steel.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'Initial deposit is 1 gold crown and 10 coppers payable now. It will cost you 1 gold crown and 10 coppers per day, due at withdraw.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'I will take the deposit out of your credit.'

o HP:Healthy MV:Full > offer mallet
The trolloc keeper tells you, ' 40 copper for a silver-banded war mallet.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'Initial deposit is 1 gold crown payable now. It will cost you 1 gold crown per day, due at withdraw.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'I will take the deposit out of your credit.'

o HP:Healthy MV:Full > offer helmet
The trolloc keeper tells you, ' 6 copper for a full metal helmet and visor.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'Initial deposit is 1 copper payable now. It will cost you 1 copper per day, due at withdraw.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'I will take the deposit out of your credit.'

o HP:Healthy MV:Strong > offer 2.receipt (receipt for enormous axe)
The trolloc keeper tells you, ' 60 copper for a receipt.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'Initial deposit is 1 gold crown and 10 coppers payable now. It will cost you 1 gold crown and 10 coppers per day, due at withdraw.'
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'I will take the deposit out of your credit.'

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Re: Basic weapons are expensive to rent?

Post by Aureus » Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:06 am

Feneon wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:02 pm
We spent some time a year or two ago reducing the cost of items in rent, but if an item is stored before that adjustment, it retains the value of deposit cost.

This one looks about the rent cost as claymore, but maybe that's still high?
As Fen noted, we standardized all the eq that's listed in the eq spreadsheet - but it doesn't handle pre-existing rent or rent storage costs: the game takes a cost snapshot at the time you rent or store the item.

We didn't do this for every single piece of eq - might be something we do as we have time. Most "good" eq has reasonable prices but a lot of "bad" or meh eq probably has odd prices. Thanks for pointing it out.

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