I do not mean to state that Viva was a malicious actor, there's no ill intent in this entire series of events on anyone's part it's a series of mistakes that I had to correct at a much later time than I would have liked to.Sannil Sandal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:10 pmWhat disadvantage though??? They're back in the original clan with full qps and rank status intact, without kmg having a vote for readmission.
Theres no loss here other than what sounds like a player picking imms theyll get a favourable response with, to push them through a process that wasn't approved.
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I think the takeaway is that our immortals are being open and honest with the community and its something we should be thankful for.Vampa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:20 pmI do not mean to state that Viva was a malicious actor, there's no ill intent in this entire series of events on anyone's part it's a series of mistakes that I had to correct at a much later time than I would have liked to.Sannil Sandal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:10 pmWhat disadvantage though??? They're back in the original clan with full qps and rank status intact, without kmg having a vote for readmission.
Theres no loss here other than what sounds like a player picking imms theyll get a favourable response with, to push them through a process that wasn't approved.
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This seems like intent to discredit and imply malice to me, Vamps.Vampa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 pm
The character had previously sought a transfer and was denied. It's not the first time they've attempted to go to non-adminstrative immortals to pursue a goal they'd been warned against by admins. The transfer happened without admin approval, and it was assumed I'd okayed the transfer, so when I enquired who had and learned no one had I reverted it.
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It's a good thing they're taking responsibility for the mistake. However, makin Viva pay for it and not grandfathering her in even though it was their mistake... not a good thing.Sannil Sandal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:23 pmI think the takeaway is that our immortals are being open and honest with the community and its something we should be thankful for it.Vampa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:20 pmI do not mean to state that Viva was a malicious actor, there's no ill intent in this entire series of events on anyone's part it's a series of mistakes that I had to correct at a much later time than I would have liked to.Sannil Sandal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:10 pmWhat disadvantage though??? They're back in the original clan with full qps and rank status intact, without kmg having a vote for readmission.
Theres no loss here other than what sounds like a player picking imms theyll get a favourable response with, to push them through a process that wasn't approved.
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If it were done with malicious intent I'd have punished the player, it is entirely reasonable to consider this was a series of events that were in no way ill intent. It's not unreasonable to be told no by one immortal and then appeal to another that outranks them. Going the opposite route, however, I can attribute to Hanlon's razor as long as it's not something that's a repeated course of action.
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It's not nessecarilly intentional discrediting someone for something to be taken a certain way from the facts available.
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Theyre not paying for anything, theyre still a r8 in their clan.Tesyl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:28 pmIt's a good thing they're taking responsibility for the mistake. However, makin Viva pay for it and not grandfathering her in even though it was their mistake... not a good thing.Sannil Sandal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:23 pmI think the takeaway is that our immortals are being open and honest with the community and its something we should be thankful for it.
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I NEVER attempted to transfer clans before Dsworn, and I was never denied.
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Vampa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 pmThe KMG exclusion was added after reverting the transfer.
The character had previously sought a transfer and was denied. It's not the first time they've attempted to go to non-adminstrative immortals to pursue a goal they'd been warned against by admins. The transfer happened without admin approval, and it was assumed I'd okayed the transfer, so when I enquired who had and learned no one had I reverted it.
I then updated the clan transfer rules because KMG aren't eligible for transfers and it was short sighted not to have excluded them from the beginning.
The matter went without notice for five weeks because I have been almost entirely absent for nearly double that time period.
Sounds like you did and were denied.