Hi Mronz,
She created a teeny tiny fireball and it flew toward him slowly, and had no effect. Like running the flame of a lighter across his chest quickly.
Hi Mronz,
** book/show spoilers maybe **
I noticed that. I wouldn't call it a continuity error though, they just wanted that sweeping vista.Katherine wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:47 am\It also seems that in a continuity error, Rand and Matt managed to cross the River Erinin to the east side when they caught their first vista of Tar Valon. Dragonmount is on the west side, which would have been the same side of the river they would have been on having left Andor. In order to get to the east side they would have to ford the Erinin unnecessarily.
For all we know, Elaida will be introduced when they introduce Elayne, which fits. We barely see Elaida in EoTW and I’m pretty sure she minimally in TGH if memory serves. That being said, I agree that they are better off collapsing Liandrin and Alviaran than removing Elaida.Katherine wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:36 pm** book/show spoilers maybe **
Liandrin was definitely not as built up in the books as she is in the show in terms of her direct relationships with other Aes Sedai. In fact do we even get introduced to her until TGH? Elaida would need to be introduced to the audience by now for anybody care about her actions in TGH/Season 2. She's not in the cast list at all for Season 1, unless I missed something. Other characters that were skipped we'll eventually see, and others we wont. Its rather crazy to cut Elaida out since she is such an important antagonist. If Liandrin takes her place this not only changes character roles, but it fundamentally changes why the White Tower is so dysfunctional through the entire series. Liandrin is /not/ Elaida. Her motivations and intelligence are WAY different than Elaida's in the books. Rather than spoiling anything, lets just say that Elaida was a narcistic fool while Liandrin is very deliberate and purpose-driven. Its Elaida that better represents what the Tower really is at this point in time.
I think grief is also a cultural thing, not just emotional. There are so many grieving rituals that I've just seen on the news. Like women vocalizing, or people throwing themselves on a coffin. Tearing clothes is one, too. People slapping themselves. Combined with the comment about 'warding off the Forsaken' and the Malkieri ritual, I have a feeling they are trying to introduce future equivalents of real world religious rituals, as opposed to just Dark bad, Light good. Like the Shienarans have the phrase "may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home" and Aiel have the "life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again".iria wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:56 amI did not like Lan breaking down as he did. I would have much preferred a single tear from him, and then showing Moiraine being a complete mess. Maybe some line from Nynaeve saying "how can he be so unaffected" and then panning to Moiraine barely able to speak saying something like "his pain is deeper than blah blah". Lan has not been stonefaced enough for me
yeah thats how i took it tooAira wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:22 pmI think grief is also a cultural thing, not just emotional. There are so many grieving rituals that I've just seen on the news. Like women vocalizing, or people throwing themselves on a coffin. Tearing clothes is one, too. People slapping themselves. Combined with the comment about 'warding off the Forsaken' and the Malkieri ritual, I have a feeling they are trying to introduce future equivalents of real world religious rituals, as opposed to just Dark bad, Light good. Like the Shienarans have the phrase "may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home" and Aiel have the "life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again".iria wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:56 amI did not like Lan breaking down as he did. I would have much preferred a single tear from him, and then showing Moiraine being a complete mess. Maybe some line from Nynaeve saying "how can he be so unaffected" and then panning to Moiraine barely able to speak saying something like "his pain is deeper than blah blah". Lan has not been stonefaced enough for me
yesisabel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:32 pmYeah definitely an underwhelming episode ..too bad last episode set up expectations. I'm not too disappointed since overall still happy to watch the story.
My sense with the stepin side story is that they wanted to show the bond and consequences without sacrificing any main characters, so now the implications of the bond can be magnified and dramatised without any major ..cuts. I feel though they could have got to the Amyrlin by now. Rand is doing Nothing. I thought liandrin gave nynaeve the hint so that she could follow her to rand or some such. Instead she was just being helpful? :d
Anyway seems like a setting up stuff episode. But a lot of scenes were not much happens except mild foreshadowing.
I think the biggest let down for me was that the sets/architecture looked so obviously staged. The spaces were so narrow and I guess made for camera. It works when it's the deck of a spaceship but these buildings looked like miniature versions of the real thing. Maybe on rewatch it will look better but tar valon looked like scenes from fake Disney alladin. Indoor shots, the screen looked so packed with pillars. Same with the first view of the tower. It is supposed to be this grand huge thing and it looks Nothing grand from the outside. WT is supposed to be as tall as the great pyramids I think. It looked nowhere as imposing.
I don't feel like it's creating immersion so far and I realy still think the problem is the protagonist lack. Who are we supposed to side with is still not clear. Moiraine being secretive discounts her because we don't know her motivations. Rand looks very pretty had such filler sidekick lines for Mat who was also barely there. The fact that rand looks like an aielman seems to cause no problem in tar valon when he runs around uncloaked..eesh!
I guess nynaeve or egwene are better protagonist points, but again barely there. Alanna has more screen space then nynaeve it feels like.