Revamping the Warranting Rules

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moric
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by moric » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:32 pm

Hope wrote:I always thought it was against Sheinar rules to hide or 'cover your face and head' inside the city. Am I wrong about that?
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3271

No such law exist regarding covering your face and head or hiding. It is a made up rule to fit a narrative.

Players are making up these rules as they go and it's not okay. If Lancers want to add the part to their laws, do it. Make the change, get imm approval and repost. Why's that hard?
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Naerin
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by Naerin » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:32 pm

@Blanket Banishments - Oddly enough, I agree with Razhak on this one. It seems reasonable to say that all members of a particular clan are unwelcome in a place because those leading the clan and/or their associates have chosen to declare war on that place. Breaking it and earning a warrant is a choice that individual members are free to make on their own, of course.

@Moric: Give it some time and hear everyone out. You're new to LS, it looks bad or abusable on paper but is typically fine in practice.

@Maegon/Elysia/whether narrates are actionable: With Maegon here mostly. Narrates are IC, but can be heard around the world - I don't think they should be warrantable on the spot if you're somewhere else, but I do think they're IC, can be held against you if you break any other laws of a clan, and if you happen to narrate in that clan's territory are completely fine for a warrant. Also think with enough narrating, banishments are fair game - if I continually yell that the Rainbow Ajah of the Unicorn Kingdom are all Darkfriends who consort with their subjects, I probably would not and should not be welcome there.

Naerin
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by Naerin » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:36 pm

I remember the hiding rule as well. Was it removed or just not re-written the last time we lost forums?

@Moric - Like I've said before privately, the Imms/Watchers are the best recourse there, usually fixes things (and seems to have in Dolo's case). Same for hiding if it's not in the written rules. Appeal it, it's suspended in the meantime, and see how it goes.

Choen
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by Choen » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:37 pm

So you are going to take a biased statement into context here and use that Adael?

livendros
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by livendros » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:38 pm

moric wrote:
livendros wrote:I think the warrant whiners need to grow a tougher hide and stop doing dumb stuff to get a banishment in the first place.
I like that you use warrant and banishment interchangeably. Helps prove the argument for how they are used.


Fine. Im all for skipping the banishment phase.
If you do something wrong. Warrant. Think its unfair? Appeal. That dont work? Ts .

Elysia
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by Elysia » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:45 pm

Razhak wrote:It would be like a german soldier walking into a britisch pub during WWII and ordering a beer and claiming: "hey... its not my war?!
And for tonight's light entertainment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

Akarus
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by Akarus » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:48 pm

What Choen said.

Elysia
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by Elysia » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:50 pm

And with the posting of the video I mean to say: don't mention the war... :P

pial
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by pial » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:54 pm

I just wish @Adeal and @Ashlee and other people like them would at least try to contact and get information on a situation rather than just repeating things that aren't true. The Civil Watch figured things would go something like this and documented the hell out of everything so we're covered.

pial
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Re: Revamping the Warranting Rules

Post by pial » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:55 pm

But yeah I'd honestly almost prefer having no banishments and just being warranted rather than banishing for whatever whimsical reason a hot potato can dream up in the moment.

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