Observations after an extended break

[Rig]

Yea, okay, so you have this overbonused master idiot named Zarth. Then you have a real OG named Hodor. Check how it's done.

You have 352(352) hit and 188(244) movement points.
You have scored 51004048 experience points and 52 quest points.
You need 2495952 exp to level and 23 qp to rank.
You have amassed 42 Turn points to date.
You have played 0 days and 21 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Diseased Molestor [Ghar'ghael 3] (Level 39).
You are standing.
Trill narrates 'think they went s'

* HP:Healthy MV:Strong > s
k officer
Along the Forest Trail
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A Legion guardsman fights for Unity here.
A Legion guardsman fights for Unity here.
An officer of the Legion of Unity commands her men here.

bash
* HP:Healthy MV:Strong > You pound a Legion of Unity officer's head into bloody fragments!

- g - a Legion of Unity officer: Scratched >
A Legion of Unity officer barely tickles your right hand with her slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman joins a Legion of Unity officer's fight!
A Legion of Unity guardsman joins a Legion of Unity officer's fight!

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity officer sends her sprawling!
This session you've landed 16 out of 24 bashes (66% landed)

* HP:Scratched MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Scratched >
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely slashes your left arm.
You pound a Legion of Unity officer's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Scratched MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Wounded >
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your right leg with his slash.
You pound a Legion of Unity officer's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Scratched MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Battered > bash
They already seem to be stunned.

* HP:Scratched MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Battered > bash
They already seem to be stunned.

* HP:Scratched MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Battered > bash

Vamana narrates 'going n'

ong - a Legion of Unity officer: Battered >
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely slashes your left arm.
A Legion of Unity guardsman slashes your left arm.
A Legion of Unity officer tickles your right leg with her slash.

+
Trill narrates 'rbm df'

=
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely slashes your right leg.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity officer tickles your left arm with her slash.
You pound a Legion of Unity officer's left leg into bloody fragments!
Your bash at a Legion of Unity officer sends her sprawling!
This session you've landed 17 out of 25 bashes (68% landed)

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Battered >
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.
You pound a Legion of Unity officer's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Beaten >
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity officer barely tickles your body with her slash.
You pound a Legion of Unity officer's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Critical > bash
=
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your right arm with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your left foot with his slash.
A Legion of Unity officer tickles your body with her slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity officer sends her sprawling!
This session you've landed 18 out of 26 bashes (69% landed)

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Critical > k guardsman
k guardsman
k guardsman
You do the best you can!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Critical > k guardsman
You do the best you can!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Critical > k guardsman
You do the best you can!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Critical > k guardsman
You do the best you can!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity officer: Critical > k guardsman
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.
You pound a Legion of Unity officer's left arm into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity officer is dead! R.I.P.
Your first time! Was it good for you too?
Your blood freezes as you hear a Legion of Unity officer's death cry.
A Legion of Unity guardsman stops following a Legion of Unity officer.
A Legion of Unity guardsman stops following a Legion of Unity officer.
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's head very hard.

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched > bash
You do the best you can!

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched > You do the best you can!

+ a Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched >
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your head with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your right leg with his slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity guardsman sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 19 out of 27 bashes (70% landed)

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Hurt >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's left leg into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely slashes your body.

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's left foot into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your right arm with his slash.

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded > bash
They already seem to be stunned.

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded > bash
*
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your head with his slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity guardsman sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 20 out of 28 bashes (71% landed)

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's body into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered >
A tactician's clerk narrates 'Scrat has slain a strong puke!'

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's head extremely hard.
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.

bash
* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered > They already seem to be stunned.

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered > bash
*
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your right arm with his slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity guardsman sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 21 out of 29 bashes (72% landed)

* HP:Hurt MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Beaten >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's right leg into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely slashes your left arm.

* HP:Wounded MV:Strong - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Critical > k guardsman
k guardsman
k guardsman
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's right leg into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity guardsman is dead! R.I.P.
Your first time! Was it good for you too?
Your blood freezes as you hear a Legion of Unity guardsman's death cry.
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your right hand with his slash.
You do the best you can!
Zarth tells you 'smh'

* HP:Hurt MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched > bash
You do the best you can!

* HP:Hurt MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched > You do the best you can!

+ Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched >
A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity guardsman sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 22 out of 30 bashes (73% landed)

* HP:Hurt MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Scratched >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Hurt MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Hurt >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's right arm into bloody fragments!

* HP:Hurt MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded > rep weird, 2 of 3 mobs dead and i'm still hurt
bash
You reply to Zarth 'weird, 2 of 3 mobs dead and i'm still hurt'

* Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded >
A Legion of Unity guardsman tickles your body with his slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity guardsman sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 23 out of 31 bashes (74% landed)

* HP:Wounded MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Wounded >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Wounded MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's body into bloody fragments!

* HP:Wounded MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered > bash
They already seem to be stunned.

* HP:Wounded MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered > bash
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A Legion of Unity guardsman barely tickles your body with his slash.

=
Your bash at a Legion of Unity guardsman sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 24 out of 32 bashes (75% landed)

* HP:Wounded MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Battered >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's right leg into bloody fragments!

* HP:Wounded MV:Full - a Legion of Unity guardsman: Critical >
You pound a Legion of Unity guardsman's body into bloody fragments!
A Legion of Unity guardsman is dead! R.I.P.
Oh, much better the second time around.
Your blood freezes as you hear a Legion of Unity guardsman's death cry.

* HP:Wounded MV:Full >
Zarth tells you '!?'

* HP:Wounded MV:Full > sc
You have 272(352) hit and 235(244) movement points.
You have scored 51031489 experience points and 52 quest points.
You need 2468511 exp to level and 23 qp to rank.
You have amassed 42 Turn points to date.
You have played 0 days and 21 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Hodor the Diseased Molestor [Ghar'ghael 3] (Level 39).
You are standing.

* HP:Hurt MV:Full > rep lol not even 100 hps gone
You reply to Zarth 'lol not even 100 hps gone'

* HP:Hurt MV:Full > rep tic to hurt right at the end
You reply to Zarth 'tic to hurt right at the end'

[Rig]

btw, do that on a hunter, Zarth!!!

[Thore]

WTF does this prove LMAO

Edit: shall I post the log of me on a hunter in abs getting low batt doing a CTF? I'm confused. P.S. I don't think anyone has argued warrior vs human mob here. We're talking about PvP. That's player v player.

[gok]

If you do it in full dodge fencing blades I don't think you loose any hp.

[Draz]

Or hit flee in abs and finish scratched

[Penetrator]

solution is remove parry from bash %

This would force comboers to rely on absers to bash full dodge
OR to use patties which is what absers HAVE to do at the moment

After removing parry from combo weapons you can then mess around with ob to see where the sweet spot is so that poor comboers have a chance vs channies/high damage rogue types.

Combo is easymode pk, people should stop doing it completely

[Rig]

WTF does this prove LMAO

Edit: shall I post the log of me on a hunter in abs getting low batt doing a CTF? I'm confused. P.S. I don't think anyone has argued warrior vs human mob here. We're talking about PvP. That's player v player.

proves that Zarth and Draz are both idiots in different ways!

[Neveyan]

My point on abs is slightly different and is solely based on historical comparisons. 1vs1 abs wins, or at the very least there is no balance issue in my opinion. My point is pking outnumbered when solo the issue comes with damage absorption. I used to be able to pk crit/beat for much longer in abs then I can now (again outnumbered and soloish using mobs). Just an observation.