Irregardless of that Faul,.... well on second thought I have nothing to really add to this discussion.faul wrote:Infallible. The word is infallible.
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Ecthus and Faul have some good posts here. Astolfo did make me laugh.
I love how right-wingers will rant and rave about how media is awful, yet somehow come these ridiculous beliefs devoid of fact as if it somehow just known, like they didn't get that misinformation somewhere. Try, just try reading from quality, credible news sources. They can actually be thoughtful, thorough, and not created for the sole purpose of partisanship. Once again, fact-check, have fun, and get smart.
I love how right-wingers will rant and rave about how media is awful, yet somehow come these ridiculous beliefs devoid of fact as if it somehow just known, like they didn't get that misinformation somewhere. Try, just try reading from quality, credible news sources. They can actually be thoughtful, thorough, and not created for the sole purpose of partisanship. Once again, fact-check, have fun, and get smart.
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Can't tell if trolling or not.Lord Pe wrote: Tell me the truth oh master unfallable faul. You are the moron.
If trolling 10/10.
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+1Paj wrote:#MAGA#JAILHILLARY#IMPEACHPENCETOPRESIDENT
It's all horseshit. Hillary more than Trump in my opinion because political experience is like waving a shovel of manure around. That's great you have it, nice pile, it's still crap. Trump had as much right to run as a warehouse stock boy from Detroit. Trump just had more money and friends that helped him. He made promises
And like every other president won't keep half of them.
Is it horrible other countries play with other peoples elections through media? Eh, kinda. But to say they can't is to allow countries to blackout outside communications, then were no better than China or North Korea. Politics has always been about who can wave around the biggest stinkiest pile of horse manure. And if the neighbor throws manure over the fence you put on your big boy pants and deal with it.
And yeah it sucks that we have to get our news through MSM. Otherwise it's what... government-run news? Crowd-fed news/Reddit? Alternatives are just as much a joke. It's always been about who spins it better.
If a country is dependent on US politics they are selling themselves short. Yeah friendly relations is great, but if countries are taking handouts and protection from the US then they shouldn't have a damn say about our politics. They can say what they want to other people in their country and elect who they want in their country. If they want a say then they can hand taxpayer money back to the taxpayers.
Election wasn't rigged. Wasn't spoiled by Russians. It was messed up by the politicians who ran them and everyone who did or didn't vote. Call them people idiots? Sorry not everyone has the time to be a political savant and know the airspeed velocity or weight ratio of a coconut carrying pigeon in Trumps pocket. Does he speak English? Great. Does he support most of my ideals? Great. Did he wrong me? I'll call my representative. Does my representative wrong me? Ok I'll not vote for him and tell my friends and get a different one. Every politician is dishonest to some degree. Resisting for four years, not representing constituents in congress, and fighting on party lines is as stupid as starvation for a cause.
The best thing the US has for it is we have a balanced power system of government branches. They do well enough to push each other's buttons, they don't need money wasted on a 'resistance' or 'movement' that only destroys portions of our society.k
Just wanted to drop a few thoughts. Regular hard-working conservative American. Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. No men in the women's restroom. Guns for everyone. No citizenship, no greencard, no right to American values and protections.
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How you missed the opportunity to use infaullible is beyond me.
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Conservative echo chambers are pretty funny. It seems strange to me that people would whine about the world being too PC and then turn around and say that people aren't giving them enough space or concern when interacting with them.
PC culture is a dangerous thing. The conservative demands for safe space and respect for their position is born out of that same desire to have a safe space. The idea of political correctness discounts true racism because PC can be blamed rather than the underlying ideological hatred. "They were angry that I called him a (insert slur here), but they're just PC Nazis" It is a strange time for rhetoric and discourse.
Respect and discourse, though, is a two-way street. If engage in a conversation to insult other individuals you won't get your point across. This goes both ways. The current divide between the aisle has been mainly detrimental on the community level. It has turned communities that may have praised their differences away from one another as members separate to find their own echo chambers.
The problem with the availability of information is that it requires comprehension and analysis to distill and the spin a lot of political media organizations (right & left) put on information decreases the amount trust that the general population has in these institutions. It doesn't help that people are swallowing ideology wholesale without determining their own threshold of belief.
It definitely doesn't feel worthwhile to have conversations online because of the troll 10/10 and personal attacks that generate. WoTMUD is strange in some ways because we still stand as anonymous representations of people, but are whitewashed the same way any forums with idtags becomes washed and voids out human identity.
Even the conversation of reality seems mute. There's no reason to bring conceptual terms into a conversation with someone who enters the conversation from a framework of disbelief of your view of the world.
I have an easier time speaking with conservatives, in general, than with liberals because there is a lessened need to couch my comments away from some reactive trigger. The intention of the conversation, though, is always to change a vote blue. While I understand we may have different views of how the world works and what is right and what is wrong, if the Republican party doesn't return to fiscal conservatism and move away from social control I will never vote for a Republican candidate on any level.
Republicans are on their way to a backlash in the '18 primaries in the Senate and House and have two years to do preventative measures by implementing positive and well-intentioned change. I'm all for party loyalty, but I have yet to see legitimate attempts to better America for Americans. Until fear is replaced by an earnest and fervent desire to actually empower and bolster the American people, the Republican party will represent fear and distrust. Fear and distrust are not platforms that enable incumbents.
PC culture is a dangerous thing. The conservative demands for safe space and respect for their position is born out of that same desire to have a safe space. The idea of political correctness discounts true racism because PC can be blamed rather than the underlying ideological hatred. "They were angry that I called him a (insert slur here), but they're just PC Nazis" It is a strange time for rhetoric and discourse.
Respect and discourse, though, is a two-way street. If engage in a conversation to insult other individuals you won't get your point across. This goes both ways. The current divide between the aisle has been mainly detrimental on the community level. It has turned communities that may have praised their differences away from one another as members separate to find their own echo chambers.
The problem with the availability of information is that it requires comprehension and analysis to distill and the spin a lot of political media organizations (right & left) put on information decreases the amount trust that the general population has in these institutions. It doesn't help that people are swallowing ideology wholesale without determining their own threshold of belief.
It definitely doesn't feel worthwhile to have conversations online because of the troll 10/10 and personal attacks that generate. WoTMUD is strange in some ways because we still stand as anonymous representations of people, but are whitewashed the same way any forums with idtags becomes washed and voids out human identity.
Even the conversation of reality seems mute. There's no reason to bring conceptual terms into a conversation with someone who enters the conversation from a framework of disbelief of your view of the world.
I have an easier time speaking with conservatives, in general, than with liberals because there is a lessened need to couch my comments away from some reactive trigger. The intention of the conversation, though, is always to change a vote blue. While I understand we may have different views of how the world works and what is right and what is wrong, if the Republican party doesn't return to fiscal conservatism and move away from social control I will never vote for a Republican candidate on any level.
Republicans are on their way to a backlash in the '18 primaries in the Senate and House and have two years to do preventative measures by implementing positive and well-intentioned change. I'm all for party loyalty, but I have yet to see legitimate attempts to better America for Americans. Until fear is replaced by an earnest and fervent desire to actually empower and bolster the American people, the Republican party will represent fear and distrust. Fear and distrust are not platforms that enable incumbents.
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Keep in mind that this is the person who heavily criticized our intelligence agencies.
To the Russian Foreign Minister, “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 82e6b325e5
To the Russian Foreign Minister, “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 82e6b325e5
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America
America
America, firetruck Yeah!
Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, Yeah
America, firetruck Yeah!
Freedom is the only way, Yeah
America
America, firetruck Yeah!
Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, Yeah
America, firetruck Yeah!
Freedom is the only way, Yeah
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I cannot agree with this enough, never going to open someone up to either you own views or revaluation of their views by belittling or dismissing them.Kilgore wrote: Respect and discourse, though, is a two-way street. If engage in a conversation to insult other individuals you won't get your point across. This goes both ways. The current divide between the aisle has been mainly detrimental on the community level. It has turned communities that may have praised their differences away from one another as members separate to find their own echo chambers.
The problem with the availability of information is that it requires comprehension and analysis to distill and the spin a lot of political media organizations (right & left) put on information decreases the amount trust that the general population has in these institutions. It doesn't help that people are swallowing ideology wholesale without determining their own threshold of belief.
I see this a lot on facebook of late where people will have quite sensible and reasoned views however they have made up their mind that those who don't are idiots and talk at them as such. It isn't productive at all and ends up dividing people further.
Echo chambers worry me a lot because it looks like its only getting worse with FB and the like tailoring content based on what you already like/agree with socially and politically. I've tried to add news organisations of all political slants to my feed just to get an idea of the spin on all sides of a story to at least get a broader view I guess?
Question is how do people help themselves to take the blinkers off and look at issues critically without being influenced by ideology?