IDEA: Checking for uniques

[livendros]

Firstly, I’m really grateful for the effort that Elysia and imms have put into this to keep uniques in active play, and the recent implementation of being able to turn in uniques for TPs. The carrot (incentives for either playing uniques or turning them in) and the stick (uniques jail) approach must be strong for this system to work.

I have a suggestion that is parallel to Fermin’s idea that may seem controversial but one that I would like to put on the table for discussion to help this system:

Continue to enforce active play for uniques whilst allowing uniques to be tradable.

Why? As Uniques has the best eq stats that top the high end tier rares, the most accomplished (and rich) pkers in the game would be willing to trade their rares for it to get a chance to use it for active play. For instance, an accomplished (and rich) pker may decide to trade a heron Long / med + another rare to get to play Lamans or K sword. allowing trading while still enforcing active play would therefore serve two objectives: (1) put the unique in the hands of the accomplished pker who is more than willing to pay a premium price for it and (2) get those age-old rares out of the rents of these accomplished (and rich) Pkers

Allowing trading does not mean you can hoard it if you manage to trade for it - you may still end up in a unique jail if you don’t play it. But as it is, not allowing trading now may mean inability of the non-accomplished pker who won a dice roll at the unique to circulate it back into game without dying.

May seem controversial, but just a thought for discussion above!

I like this idea. But realistically people already trade for them they just keep it on the extreme hush hush. I mean how hard is it to set up a death to look like it was just your time to go.

[Rig]

Nobody trades uniques. I know because I usually have them. I have to fight tooth and nail just to get half of you with a unique outside your throneroom. Cookie cutter mean and boring same old is going to keep getting progressively worse and worse until everyone is all wearing oiled sleeves with claymores sitting at patties 1 on 1.

[livendros]

Nobody trades uniques. I know because I usually have them. I have to fight tooth and nail just to get half of you with a unique outside your throneroom. Cookie cutter mean and boring same old is going to keep getting progressively worse and worse until everyone is all wearing oiled sleeves with claymores sitting at patties 1 on 1.

I think you're a perfect example of the lengths people will go through for this stuff and also the sickness that drives this game.

In regards to the log you're talkin about if everything was done on the up-and-up then all it was was a tactical error maybe forgetting the door locks for forever. However the thing is it's a big if. How did you even know he was online? How did you know his location? I mean it was a kill Squad you set up to get back a piece of text. Once again I'm saying if everything was on the up-and-up great and all but I'm saying that's a big if. It's also just the tip of the iceberg for dung like this.

[Rig]

Once again, you and your assumptions are wrong as per usual, and I don't know why in every scenario you see some foul play. I'm not even going to bother telling you what happened because I don't need to explain myself to you. It's just like the log where you raged about some foul play of us killing a smob group on IoMM when the reality of it was that I got a message from a DF. I know it's hard to grasp that not everyone plays this game to cheat somehow.

I know I go at great lengths to kill people and acquire gear that helps me kill people easier and faster. I don't know what else you want from me. I pk, I play to win, I play to get these items and kill people with them. I'm a Chosen Fade, I've been on reaver, i've essentially turned in over 4k qps on remort rewards, not to mention the 2k i've gotten as a trolloc rogue before I remorted. Is there some other achievable goal you have in mind for me to do on DS? The only reason I log on is to help people and pk.

Please inform me of what else you would do, besides smob on DS all day every day for tps and abs kits. I don't like to smob for hours on end for qps. I don't like to store 12 kits of abs in my rent. I simply enjoy helping other players and pking. So yes, if the sickness is that I play toward one of the only achievable goals left to me as a player that I like to do then lock me up and remove everything in this game and make everyone wear full abs and claymores.

[livendros]

Once again, you and your assumptions are wrong as per usual, and I don't know why in every scenario you see some foul play. I'm not even going to bother telling you what happened because I don't need to explain myself to you. It's just like the log where you raged about some foul play of us killing a smob group on IoMM when the reality of it was that I got a message from a DF. I know it's hard to grasp that not everyone plays this game to cheat somehow.

I know I go at great lengths to kill people and acquire gear that helps me kill people easier and faster. I don't know what else you want from me. I pk, I play to win, I play to get these items and kill people with them. I'm a Chosen Fade, I've been on reaver, i've essentially turned in over 4k qps on remort rewards, not to mention the 2k i've gotten as a trolloc rogue before I remorted. Is there some other achievable goal you have in mind for me to do on DS? The only reason I log on is to help people and pk.

Please inform me of what else you would do, besides smob on DS all day every day for tps and abs kits. I don't like to smob for hours on end for qps. I don't like to store 12 kits of abs in my rent. I simply enjoy helping other players and pking. So yes, if the sickness is that I play toward one of the only achievable goals left to me as a player that I like to do then lock me up and remove everything in this game and make everyone wear full abs and claymores.

First of all I never said anything about the island of Mad Men. Well I know what you're talkin about you need to check yourself. I realized I was on the wrong form account for main board posting but that doesn't give you any right to try and out my alts.

Secondly you shoot yourself in the foot by saying all you like to do is grab the most powerful dung out there. Nobody likes that player.

3rd you take life lessons from Jaster I can guarantee you that you're not learning anything good from him.

Fourthly in my experience in my long time playing this game yes most people are doing something foul and most people are doing something cheat worthey. And usually it's for better weapons most of the time it's just for better weapons. Be that using a duplication bug I wouldn't know what certain powerful in Mortal did that back in the day. Be that trying to farm moridin and getting defaded gee that never happened several times.

Your relative short time here is very much apparent. I don't care what you do with your time. All I'm saying is you're part of the dung tier of people that make the game crappy for almost everyone else. When you employ the tactics of your mentor that is win at all costs no matter what it does to your reputation you belie any good you might be fostering with this helping of people that you say you do. Maybe play a character without bonuses. Maybe try to get and use normal equipment. I don't really care continue on the path that you are on just realize it's going to kill your reputation.

[byrg]

[Tso]

The answer to character progression options should never be "play a different character". However, that said none of this discussion is relevant to the subject of this thread.

In conclusion, remove the dagger sheathes from all worn armor and trinkets.

[Rig]

First of all, I'm mentioning something Livendros said while I was online.

Secondly, I don't care if you like me or not, I will use the best equipment and I will play it like I always have.

Third, I'm glad you again assume i'm learning some life lessons from Jaster and that he is in no way capable of teaching anyone anything.

Fourth, anecdotal experiences doesn't make up for everyone on this game.

I once again, couldn't care less about how you or anyone else feels. The tactics of "win at all costs" should be on everyone's mind during pk because that's the point. To win. The reputation I have I don't care about, because you and everyone else with their strong feelings about how much of an asshole I am don't matter to me. I do what I do. I play characters without bonuses all the time, and I use normal equipment all the time.

Reputation: Destroyed

[livendros]

First of all, I'm mentioning something Livendros said while I was online.

Secondly, I don't care if you like me or not, I will use the best equipment and I will play it like I always have.

Third, I'm glad you again assume i'm learning some life lessons from Jaster and that he is in no way capable of teaching anyone anything.

Fourth, anecdotal experiences doesn't make up for everyone on this game.

I once again, couldn't care less about how you or anyone else feels. The tactics of "win at all costs" should be on everyone's mind during pk because that's the point. To win. The reputation I have I don't care about, because you and everyone else with their strong feelings about how much of an asshole I am don't matter to me. I do what I do. I play characters without bonuses all the time, and I use normal equipment all the time.

Reputation: Destroyed

Your first point is a bald-faced lie. After that I don't really care you've destroyed your own reputation and you seem to not care about it.

[Razhak]

I like beer.