disabling 'where' for clanned seanchan

[Lord Pe]

Mobol can't decipher who's clanned and who isn't when said person isn't on, it's always been a problem.

At best it can not take bits, or not take bits and warscalps.

Either way, samesiding is part of the game and it's not exactly out of control atm.

I guess what it boils down to is the last sentence of what you wrote I believe it to be a problem and out-of-control especially late at night. I've heard from a few people that they'd rather just rent then deal with the folks who can get Rewards for killing even the lowliest unclanned people by using the most powerful tool for hunting available.

[Elysia]

I sometimes rent too when I can't dedicate enough attention to the game to make it work with samesiders around. RL gets in the way, but that's a problem with RL, not with the game.

With "out of control" I mean in terms of griefing and general asshattery. Frankly, I'm tired of certain groups of people and their anti-samesiding agenda. Some clans hate it so much they would do anything to curb it. Well, it's part of WoTmud. It always was, then it wasn't for a bit, and now it's back. Vampa's goal was to make the game more dangerous and this fits with that.

[Lord Pe]

I very much agree it shouldn't go away but the incentive to kill random midby out trying to XP should be taken away via the clerk giving rewards for pretty much any Scout that's turned in. Well I did line it out it to you in the mail I will say it for everyone to hear it I do understand the clerk in its current iteration probably kills your headache in general by a lot but really all it has done is given people free rein just gonuts basically.

I've edited this to say that if these people who have the incentive to turn in those scalps to the clerk were to suddenly lose that incentive I doubt they would just stop same siding they might just start picking targets that were worth Qps.

[Rig]

Once you're a bit, you're fair game imo. Taking away from that makes the game more cookie cutter and boring than it usually is. There should be more darkfriends and murderers roaming around honestly.

[Lord Pe]

Well I agree that is a fun aspect of the game it is proven to run people off if it gets too rampant.

[Lord Pe]

Also as with anything on this game that isn't directly monitored by the higher-ups I can guarantee you this is already being abused. You want to reset let me do it for you! Oh well I killed them I guess I can turn in the scalp if anyone asks 5 years down the road I'll say I fought them and was Victorious!

Yeah I know resets can be bought but you know you can randomly find dead people sometimes. Ask the group at Roland the other day LOL

[Elysia]

Considering scalp turn ins are monitored, I'm really not too worried. The dockings for unearned scalps is 10x the amount earned, so even if we don't catch every single abused turn in, people will still be at a loss even if we catch more than 1/10.

[Sanguine]

So they get QPs for every same-side scalp plus have treaties up North to PK DS safely for qps as well?

[Cosmo]

WHERE works both ways.

I don't know how many times I've tried to sneak up on a smob group and they've been paying attention/spamming where. The reality is finding people is not that hard, generally you find some tracks first and can then pretty well pinpoint where they are anyway.

I think smob groups found me a hell of a lot more painful to deal with when they didn't see me on where. I could kill the horses, prep the doors and take a lot more time to organize. Now they see me coming so I've got to be quick, not waste time where I might show up in the zone etc.

I think its also likely to restrict SS's ability to interact with others too including unclanned SS sworn.

If SS are killing people they shouldn't I am more than happy to review. If you're just having a whinge cause SS are actually PKing people well I'm not sure anyone could care less.

I think people also carry on about a lot of things like scalps and SS being bastards etc etc but it seems to be just some kind of smear campaign without IC basis. What are SS supposed to do? If you're an Oathbreaker, they are going to kill you. Just like trollocs will kill you. If people are turning in scalps they haven't earned they will get punished. I am not presently aware of anyone on SS doing this or getting punished for it.

[Rig]

It's a lot better now that you can listen to them spam narrates with garbage and view the clan lists. Honestly you're just geriatric as firetruck if you let a SS or any other same sider sneak up on you.

If people are really so sad and annoyed that they have to check the who list and where every so often then they've been living in a bubble of safety and deserve every pk rip they get from some same siding SS. Used to be cool when you had to be paranoid and constantly make sure you're not being stalked by someone trying to kill you.

Wotmud whinging about pk at it's finest.


Edit: http://forums.wotmud.info/viewtopic.php?f=7 ... 777#p85777

This guy gets it.