Razhak wrote:Every human being is in essence selfish by nature. Even people who claim to be altruistic, derive some sort of enjoyment of their altruism (encouragement from other players, good standing amongst the group, etc etc) and I dare claim that it serves as enjoyment for them in that manner.
I play for me, and if others have fun while playing with me, thats a bonus. I try not to hurt others on purpose, but I also wont pull my punches against you if we are playing against eachother (neither will I expect the other side to do so).
People enjoy different things, though. If I die after a 1v1 back and forth with Bobo after an hour then I had some great PK and I don't particularly care. If I call in 5 people to smash Bobo in a minute then cool I won but... boring. Mind you I do like that people have to be a little on their toes when smobbing so obviously it is all subjective and a matter of context in each situation. *shrug*
Anyway I agree with Rig that everyone just gets shafted sometimes. Usually it is not malicious intent on anyone's part but just how the cookie crumbles. Human brains don't like that though and tend see a narrative where there isn't one - if you're on tilt it tends to be a negative one. In the middle of PK it's pretty easy to miss if someone went afk or LD, especially when on different sides and especially when stabbing. I'm definitely guilty of this too - getting on Discord all salty and seeing malicious intent after getting shafted instead of just walking away and cooling down.
I also agree with Naomi that you take on a certain level of risk when you continue PKing with a spotty connection. I PK from work sometimes and it can be a bit laggy but I'm not expecting people to back off when the lag spikes and my buffer freezes for half a minute (functionally the same as being linkdead imo).
isabel wrote:I play to have fun but it's most definitely not fun for me if the other player isn't having fun too.
Yeah I mean "I play for me" can easily just be an argument for griefing (not that I think that is what is happening here necessarily). Well look yeah it can be fun (hello EVE Online) but maybe do it on an MMO with thousands of players and not a MUD with dozens. There is at least *some* merit to the notion that we are collectively responsible for fostering some kind of "honorable" environment.
e: And I don't think that's "today's society wanting things handed to them" so much as people saying you shouldn't be allowed to do whatever you want in the sandbox just because you want to.
ee: I can't comment about other clans but we should be keeping up character separation, even if it is known who owns which alt, no? I should be allowed to play an unsavory type character and not have it affect the reputation of my more upstanding ones. I only mention this because a couple Accepted have asked me if it is okay that they have DS remorts and... yeah. I'd hope the answer would be 'of course it is' but obviously not if they feel the need to ask. It has nothing to do with your Accepted or her RP.