Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

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reil
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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by reil » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:52 pm

God you are dumb.
Kryyg wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:48 pm
Weapon OB being upped across the board with total defense also being upped across the board. Combo weapons also hit just as much OB as abs weapons so I don't even know what you're talking about here.
180 ob hits abs just as easily as 200 ob.

200 ob hits dodge and combo more often than 180 ob.

See how the relative benefit there is slanted towards absers? Was that slow enough?!

Rest of it is just noise, so I assume Kryyg took over.

matheus
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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by matheus » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:07 pm

180 OB would hit 280-300 defense the same 200 ob will hit 300-340 defense.

See that ?!?

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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by Rig » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:19 pm

This is the dumbest thread I’ve seen this month

matheus
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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by matheus » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:27 pm

Would 190 OB hit 290-310 defe the same as 210 ob hitting 310 to 350 defense? Is this the argument our future generation will be having in 10 years?!!

reil
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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by reil » Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:12 pm

matheus wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:07 pm
180 OB would hit 280-300 defense the same 200 ob will hit 300-340 defense.

See that ?!?
I can see why you might set a lower threshold of '280' when you're used to 400 defense and 75% abs on the only character you can play without spam-dying, but that's not really how it works in general.

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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by jafra » Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:36 pm

reil wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:00 am
Stomper wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:53 am
I don't think any fix to stats will help any situation now. Everyone already has super stats and super statted alts. There's nothing to really be done there. It will just be a classic wotmud ladder pull up for the new players to have even less advantage.
Not if it applies retroactively, that'd be a big part of any major overhaul to point distribution system. But I'll tally one for 'jerking off to our zero-effort-botted or reroll-cheated stats in perpetuity' for posterity.
I like this idea.

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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by Thore » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:08 am

As nice of a theoretical thought of a pfile stat wipe and point allocation would be, we'd see numbers dwindle even further. Overall net loss for the smaller % of folks who would be for such a game-killing thing.

reil
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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by reil » Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:06 am

Yeah, a part of me also doesn't want stats system fixed now that I have my 18 19 19 17 15 blands channie and 19 16 16 19 19 hunters/warriors/rogues/fade over the course of 23+ years, but the other part of me knows that's like arguing "making the game actually resemble a game is game-killing".

I guess we've had such overwhelming success over the years with the current statting/rerolling system there's just no sense in even considering changing it.

Thore
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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by Thore » Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:42 am

Not that I am a MUD historian by any means, but what little I have heard or know of other MUDS, some have died off after pfile wipes. That's all I'm saying.

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Re: Proposal: Remove PB from the bash landing calculation

Post by isabel » Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:45 am

The point of abs is to train you into a zen state of being where you constantly embrace your own mortality and let go - of xp, eq, tps, qps, friends, clanmates, everything

The point of everything else is about accumulation, consumption, monopolising, competition, endless aspiration, flexing, self aggrandisement, and eventually frustration.

It is a classic eastern philosophy vs western capitalism problem

And the answer is - play abs, have nothing, be happy

Rhys will agree with me! And also zarth
And every true abs pker

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