Is this intended?

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Jestin
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Is this intended?

Post by Jestin » Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:09 am

I have not been able to figure out why sometimes when I rent or quit out, the mob disappears and I lose qps, and sometimes it just stops following me and is still there. Also sometimes when it dies I lose qps and sometimes I don't. Any help understanding this appreciated!

Notice I how start with 271 qps, then log back in with 270 qps. It also has the message:
A Samma N'Sei warrior stops following you.
A Samma N'Sei warrior heads back to his home.

Sometimes I get this message and he disappears and sometimes I don't and he's still there.

co R HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Fresh >
You have 275(277) hit and 149(149) movement
points.
You have scored 34399030 experience points and 271 quest points.
You need 2100970 exp to level and 329 qp to rank.
You have amassed 217 Turn points to date.
You have played 79 days and 4 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Jestin the Tai'isha [Dreadlord 3] (Level 35).
You are standing.

ofo HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Full > Sleeping Chamber
[ obvious exits: N ]
A lame trolloc stands here, guarding the possessions of others.
A silent, black-robed figure watches you from afar.
A silent, black-robed figure watches you from afar.
A silent, black-robed figure watches you from afar.
A Samma N'Sei warrior has arrived from the north.

o HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Full > Your group consists of:
Jestin (Head of group)
a Samma N'Sei warrior

o HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Full > group warrior
A Samma N'Sei warrior is no longer a member of
your group.

o HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Full > i
You are carrying:
a dark pair of steel boots
a full metal helmet and visor
a shining steel breastplate
a pair of ebony-steel plate vambraces
a pair of heavy metal gauntlets
a dark, grim axe
a pair of ebony-steel plate greaves
a pair of thick metal boots

o HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Full > rent
The trolloc keeper tells you, 'Your rent
allowance is currently 17 gold crowns and 10 coppers per day.
You will need to pay an additional 2 gold crowns per day at short-term rates.
You still have 231 gold crowns and 2 coppers rent credit with me.
With the money you have, this means you are able to rent for 145 days.
If you rent more than 5 days, at medium-term rates you can rent for 291 days.
If you rent more than 30 days, at long-term rates you can rent for 727 days.'

The trolloc keeper stores your belongings and helps you into your private
chamber.
A Samma N'Sei warrior stops following you.
A Samma N'Sei warrior heads back to his home.
You suddenly feel less protected.
The flows of fire and earth enhancing your vision have dissipated.

#SESSION 'ses5' DIED.
#THERE'S NO ACTIVE SESSION NOW.
>
#There's no active session. Use File/Connect to connect to your mud.


> #ses ses6 game.wotmud.org 2224
#Trying to connect..
jestin


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It is pitch black...

You were rented for 0.00 days.
You were charged 2 gold crowns per day over and above your last allowance of 17
gold crowns and 10 coppers per day.
Your total rent charges add up to 1 copper.
Your rent credit of 231 gold crowns and 2 coppers covers it all.

o HP:Scratched SP:Good MV:Full > You have 275(277) hit and 145(149) movement
points.
You have scored 34399030 experience points and 270 quest points.
You need 2100970 exp to level and 330 qp to rank.
You have amassed 217 Turn points to date.
You have played 79 days and 4 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Jestin the Tai'isha [Dreadlord 3] (Level 35).
You are standing.

Rhys
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Re: Is this intended?

Post by Rhys » Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:58 am

I don't have any logs, but I also seem to lose 2qp whenever I rent on Rhys after having issued a master mob, regardless of whether the mob is present when I rent. Always forgot to say something about it

Feneon
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Re: Is this intended?

Post by Feneon » Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:42 pm

A reminder on mastermobs:

If you are rank 8 there are 3 ways you can lose qps related to your rank 8 mob.

You lead it out of the zone that it spawned in, then ungroup it, and while you're offline it gets killed. (1qp loss)
You lead it outside of the zone that it spawned in, and while it is grouped, you rent somewhere else. (2qp loss)
You lead it outside of the zone that it spawned in, and someone kills it while you're online. (2qp loss)


If you order an issuable mob (at rank 7 or above) to follow you after it's lead is broken, and then you rent without returning that mob to the zone where it spawned, you will lose 2 qps.

We will not reimburse these quest points.

Feneon
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Re: Is this intended?

Post by Feneon » Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:08 pm

Mastermob is interchangeable with telling a mob to follow you versus issuing a mob and it following you on its own.

Asandra
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Re: Is this intended?

Post by Asandra » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:53 am

Bring the mastermob to the barracks and say 'return to base' before renting. Has not failed me yet, other ways I've lost qps left and right.

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