EXPLAINED: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

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Joaquim
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EXPLAINED: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by Joaquim » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:52 am

An Entrance Beneath a Waterfall
A hurricane of sound thunders within the cavern as tons of water crashes into
a pool to the south. The white and blue water, cold to the touch, must come
from glaciers high upon Misty Mountains. To the east a steep and muddy
decline tunnels into the bowels of the Misty Mountains.
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A squat border stone juts from the soil.
A gray palfrey has arrived from the east.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
You are too exhausted.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard > [rid horse]
Are you kidding? You can't ride in here!

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
Alas, you cannot go that way...

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
An Entrance Beneath a Waterfall
A hurricane of sound thunders within the cavern as tons of water crashes into
a pool to the south. The white and blue water, cold to the touch, must come
from glaciers high upon Misty Mountains. To the east a steep and muddy
decline tunnels into the bowels of the Misty Mountains.
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A squat border stone juts from the soil.
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby.

HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
You have 270(396) hit and
3(157) movement points.
You have scored 108500001 experience points and 661 quest points.
You need 1727319362 exp to level and 339 qp to rank.
You have amassed 57 Turn points to date.
You have played 11 days and 5 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Joaquim the Honored Morat'raken [Morat'raken 6] (Level 51).
You are sleeping.

HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >

You wake, and sit up.


* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard > An Entrance Beneath a Waterfall
A hurricane of sound thunders within the cavern as tons of water crashes into
a pool to the south. The white and blue water, cold to the touch, must come
from glaciers high upon Misty Mountains. To the east a steep and muddy
decline tunnels into the bowels of the Misty Mountains.
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A squat border stone juts from the soil.
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby.


* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard > You have 284(396) hit and 3(157) movement points.
You have scored 108500001 experience points and 661 quest points.
You need 1727319362 exp to level and 339 qp to rank.
You have amassed 57 Turn points to date.
You have played 11 days and 5 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Joaquim the Honored Morat'raken [Morat'raken 6] (Level 51).
You are resting.


* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard > An Entrance Beneath a Waterfall
A hurricane of sound thunders within the cavern as tons of water crashes into
a pool to the south. The white and blue water, cold to the touch, must come
from glaciers high upon Misty Mountains. To the east a steep and muddy
decline tunnels into the bowels of the Misty Mountains.
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A squat border stone juts from the soil.
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
You have got 0 practice sessions left.
You are skilled in the following:
long blades (Poor)
medium blades (Poor)
fencing blades (Poor)
pick (Very Good)
hide (Superb)
sneak (Superb)
backstab (Superb)
short blades (Superb)
search (Excellent)
track (Average)
ride (Level 4)
notice (Superb)
camouflage (Poor)
ranger sneak (Poor)
survival (Level 7)

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >

You stop resting, and stand up.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
You are too exhausted.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard > [rid horse]
Are you kidding? You can't ride in here!

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
An Entrance Beneath a Waterfall
A hurricane of sound thunders within the cavern as tons of water crashes into
a pool to the south. The white and blue water, cold to the touch, must come
from glaciers high upon Misty Mountains. To the east a steep and muddy
decline tunnels into the bowels of the Misty Mountains.
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A squat border stone juts from the soil.
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
You have 284(396) hit and 3(157) movement points.
You have scored 108500001 experience points and 661 quest points.
You need 1727319362 exp to level and 339 qp to rank.
You have amassed 57 Turn points to date.
You have played 11 days and 5 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Joaquim the Honored Morat'raken [Morat'raken 6] (Level 51).
You are resting.

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
You are a 586 year old male seanchan hunter.
Your height is 5 feet, 6 inches, and you weigh 148.0 lbs.
You are carrying 0.1 lbs and wearing 63.1 lbs, very light.
Your base abilities are: Str:19 Int:15 Wil:12 Dex:17 Con:19.
Offensive bonus: 143, Dodging bonus: 6, Parrying bonus: 8
Your mood is: Wimpy. You will flee below: 198 Hit Points
You are wanted by: Andor Tar Valon Illian Amador Children of Light Red Eagles
Thiefbane Bandar Eban Tanchico
Your armor absorbs about 83% on average.

You are subjected to the following effects:
- CURE POISON

* HP:Wounded MV:Haggard >
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.

* HP:Hurt MV:Weary >
Arglebargle, glop-glyf!?!

* HP:Hurt MV:Weary >
You have 300(396) hit and 24(157) movement points.
You have scored 108500001 experience points and 661 quest points.
You need 1727319362 exp to level and 339 qp to rank.
You have amassed 57 Turn points to date.
You have played 11 days and 5 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Joaquim the Honored Morat'raken [Morat'raken 6] (Level 51).
You are resting.

* HP:Hurt MV:Weary >

You stop resting, and stand up.

* HP:Hurt MV:Weary >
A Raging Waterfall
The Misty Mountains soar to enormous heights above you. Water crashes from
the mountain above to smash into a churning pool of water. There are some
stepping stones, free of moss, that lie to the south. To the north, there is
a place to stand behind the waterfall inside the granite mountain.
[ obvious exits: N S W ]
A gray palfrey has arrived from the north.

* HP:Hurt MV:Haggard > You have 300(396) hit and 22(157) movement points.
You have scored 108500001 experience points and 661 quest points.
You need 1727319362 exp to level and 339 qp to rank.
You have amassed 57 Turn points to date.
You have played 11 days and 5 hours (real time).
This ranks you as Joaquim the Honored Morat'raken [Morat'raken 6] (Level 51).
You are standing.

Aureus
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Re: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by Aureus » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:15 am

Seems pretty straightforward that you didn't have enough moves?

Asandra
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Re: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by Asandra » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:34 am

In the end it shows that it cost him 2 moves to go south, and he had 3 at the beginning.
Logically you'd say 3 is enough if it costs 2, but perhaps not?

Joaquim
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Re: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by Joaquim » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:11 am

Aureus wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:15 am
Seems pretty straightforward that you didn't have enough moves?
I didn't think it was straight-forward.

I had 3 mvs and I have level 7 survival and every room in the game should cost me 2 mvs to move from. As Asandre mentioned in the end it cost me 2 mvs to go through the room.

I slept to make sure all status was off and the only thing lingering on my status was CURE POISON cause of mobfade black sword.

Maybe I should have posted why this is weird. But, it seemed pretty obvious from the log that something was different about moving south from that room from when I had 3 mvs to when I had 24 mvs. I just didn't understand it and still don't. It is why I asked.

A better question might have been: what would the right amount of moves have been? How much would that have cost me? And why did it change?

zankou
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Re: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by zankou » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:52 pm

Perhaps it works like gate, where it costs 40 sps? but you need 80? to cast it. just a hunch.

Elysia
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Re: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by Elysia » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:18 pm

I'm going out on a limb, but maybe the game calculates whether you can actually move first on the base moves it costs and then start taking into account lvl 7 surv and anything else that reduces moves once you actually move? That particular room is type mountains, which if memory serves me is a base cost of 4.

I just tried on a completely unpracced char and it costs them 4 to move 1s from that room.

When I replicate it with lvl 7 surv and 3 mvs, it won't let me move, but once I move it costs 2 mvs.

Eol
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Re: EXPLAINED: Any Ideas Why I Couldn't Go South Here?

Post by Eol » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:59 pm

I've checked the logs and essentially the game rolled a 99 sided dice each time you tried to go south and failed but ultimately after the tick you got lucky and it rolled a 2. Very fortunate. 8-)

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