Debate on Battlefield Healing!

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Debate on Battlefield Healing!

Post by Penzei » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:49 pm

Point of view: Penzei

Participant:
Aes Sedai: Tolza, Jenda, Kathala, Sarinda
Accepted: Marisue, Ruby, Cera, Adey, Chloro, Penzei

Thank you everyone!

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In the Classroom
A board of black slate hangs on the wall near the door, suggesting this
room is used as a classroom. The room is plain and windowless and has
enough place to seat thirty students. A dais with a desk sits at the front
of the room, where the Aes Sedai or Accepted teaching the class can sit.
[ obvious exits: W ]
Zone: White Tower Upper Floors
Door west: door
Tolza of Murandy is resting here.
A haughty young woman strides by practicing Aes Sedai serenity.

Tolza says 'Let me round up some troops.'

Tolza stops resting, and clambers on her feet.

Penzei nods in agreement.
Tolza opens the door.

Tolza leaves west. <<

A Gray Sister has arrived from the west.

Tolza has arrived from the west.

Jenda has arrived from the west.

Jenda grins evilly.

Penzei smiles happily.

Penzei curtseys to her audience.

Jenda winks suggestively at Penzei.

Tolza closes the door.

Tolza sits down and rests.

Jenda greets Tolza with a light kiss on her cheek.

Tolza greets Jenda with a light kiss on her cheek.

Jenda inclines her head in greeting to a Gray Sister.

Penzei says 'Tolza Sedai you locked the door'

Penzei giggles.

Tolza stops resting, and clambers on her feet.

Tolza opens the door.

Chloro has arrived from the west.

Chloro deeply curtseys to the Aes Sedai near.

Jenda grins at Chloro.

Chloro beams a smile at a Gray Sister.

Chloro closes the door.

Tolza says 'Did i?'

Penzei says 'Not sure how but Accepted Chloro couldn't get in'

Penzei giggles.

Chloro smooths her skirts. "That door might need a little oil."

Jenda nods at Chloro.

Penzei giggles.

Jenda says 'I like that choice of diplomatic phrasing. '

Penzei giggles.

Penzei says 'I learned from the best'

Chloro chuckles politely.

wink jenda
Penzei winks suggestively at Jenda.

Jenda laughs softly.

Jenda says 'You certainly retained your lessons on flattery. '

Penzei giggles.

Jenda says 'I wonder if someone will port in on us. '

Jenda narrows her tilted brown eyes in thought.

Penzei says 'We have a few more enroute! So I will wait for them!'

Penzei says 'I mean...'

Tolza opens the door.

Jenda laughs softly.

Aelrena has arrived from the west.

Penzei says 'would most likely be a bad idea for them...'

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Tolza says 'Was it locked?'

Tolza closes the door.

Chloro inclines her head in greeting to Aelrena.

Tolza sits down and rests.

Aelrena says 'Nope, I just got distracted and forgot how to use a door.'

Aelrena blushes.

Tolza nods in agreement.

Tolza says 'Turn, push.'

Tolza nods to herself, she must need reassurance.

Chloro says 'I think the door placard (name is no longer door) might have been switched by a mis
-behaving novice. '

Penzei giggles.
Tolza stops resting, and clambers on her feet.

The door is opened from the other side.

Penzei senses Tolza connecting to the True Source.

Adey has arrived from the west.

Penzei senses Tolza is channeling saidar.
Jenda reclines in the one soft chair in the room.

Adey curtseys gracefully.

Adey closes the door.

Penzei smiles happily.

Aelrena nods at Chloro.

Tolza sits down and rests.

Penzei says 'Welcome!'

Adey smiles at Penzei.

Aelrena looks at Jenda.

Adey says 'Thank you'

Aelrena nods in agreement.

Chloro inclines her head in greeting to Adey.

Aelrena curtseys gracefully.

In the Classroom
A board of black slate hangs on the wall near the door, suggesting this
room is used as a classroom. The room is plain and windowless and has
enough place to seat thirty students. A dais with a desk sits at the front
of the room, where the Aes Sedai or Accepted teaching the class can sit.
[ obvious exits: W ]
Zone: White Tower Upper Floors
Door west: door
Adey Genhald the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Aelrena Solyan the Journey Accepted is standing here.
Chloro Arovni, the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Jenda Sharaad is standing here.
Tolza of Murandy is resting here.
A Gray Sister walks here, considering her options.
A haughty young woman strides by practicing Aes Sedai serenity.

Adey pats at her perspiring forehead with a handkerchief.

Jenda looks at Adey.

Jenda beams a smile at Adey.

Penzei says 'Well, I'm sure we may get a few stragglers in the next few moments so we may as well
begin!'

Aelrena nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'Greetings Aes Sedai!'

Aelrena looks at Penzei.

Adey stops using a yew staff.

Adey puts a yew staff in an embroidered, cotton shoulder bag.

Penzei says 'Greetings fellow Accepted!'

Adey smiles at Penzei.

Tolza gives you a faint smile as her eyes dart to her book.

Aelrena smiles happily.

Jenda grins at Tolza.

Aelrena nods at Penzei.

Someone knocks on the door from the other side.

Jenda whispers something to Tolza.

Tolza stops resting, and clambers on her feet.

Chloro takes a hard backed chair near the back but closer than the Aes Sedai's.

Tolza opens the door.

Adey readies her pen and paper for notetaking.

Marisue has arrived from the west.

Tolza closes the door.

Penzei says 'For those who do not know me, my name is Penzei Perets, Tower Accepted and Apprentice to
the Yellow Ajah!'

Jenda winks at Marisue.

Marisue curtseys before Tolza.

Marisue curtseys before Jenda.

Aelrena smiles happily.

Chloro inclines her head in greeting to Marisue.

Tolza whispers something to Jenda.
Jenda looks at Penzei.

Jenda grins at Tolza.

Penzei says 'And today I gather everyone here today to hold a debate on the topics of Battlefield
healing and tactics associated with such endevours!'

Marisue says 'my apologies all, just to interrupt'

Jenda arches an eyebrow.

Penzei giggles.

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Marisue says 'may I please request that we all group, either on Jenda Sedai, Tolza Sedai, or myself'

Penzei says 'I was expecting a few late shows'

Penzei now follows Marisue.

In the Classroom
A board of black slate hangs on the wall near the door, suggesting this
room is used as a classroom. The room is plain and windowless and has
enough place to seat thirty students. A dais with a desk sits at the front
of the room, where the Aes Sedai or Accepted teaching the class can sit.
[ obvious exits: W ]
Zone: White Tower Upper Floors
Door west: door
Marisue the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Adey Genhald the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Aelrena Solyan the Journey Accepted is standing here.
Chloro Arovni, the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Jenda Sharaad is standing here.
Tolza of Murandy is standing here.
A Gray Sister walks here, considering her options.
A haughty young woman strides by practicing Aes Sedai serenity.
Tolza now follows Marisue.

Penzei nods in agreement.

Aelrena now follows Marisue.

Jenda says 'welcome ducklings, under the wings of the yellow, or brown...'

Jenda winks at Tolza.

Penzei points whereto?

Chloro now follows Jenda.

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Marisue says 'should DS show up please all engage then target h.dark with ice spikes, should it be
Vannor solo, '

Aelrena is now a member of Marisue's group.
Tolza is now a member of Marisue's group.
Penzei is now a member of Marisue's group.

Jenda laughs softly.

Tolza whispers something to Jenda.

Marisue beckons Chloro to follow her.

Chloro is now a member of Jenda's group.

The door is opened from the other side.

Kathala has arrived from the west.
A young Tower Guard has arrived from the west.

Kathala closes the door.

Kathala's face gains a chin as she smiles.

Kathala stops using a yew staff.

Marisue curtseys before Kathala.
Chloro curtseys gracefully.

Penzei says 'Greetings Kathala Sedai !'

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Penzei says 'Wonderful you could make it!'

Aelrena curtseys before Kathala.
Adey now follows Marisue.

Jenda cuddles Kathala.

Adey is now a member of Marisue's group.

Kathala's face gains a chin as she smiles.

Adey nods in agreement.

Marisue says 'thankyou everyone, I really appreciate it.'

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Marisue smiles at Penzei.

Marisue says 'just one more caveat'

Marisue says 'if its vannor solo'

Marisue thinks hard.

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Marisue says 'id recommend myself and perhaps penzei spam the door open a round and everyone flee'

Marisue says 'and then you all spam it shut until the mobs kill him.'

Jenda says 'Constant vigilance.. Well done, Marisue. '

Kathala gives a young Tower Guard an order.
A young Tower Guard hides a heavy axe with a dark, serrated blade.

Penzei giggles.

Aelrena smiles happily.

Marisue blushes.

Penzei says 'I'd rather Tolza Sedai keep a watch on the door given she seems to be more adept at locking
and unlocking it'

Penzei giggles.

Penzei says 'That being said!'

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Penzei turns for a moment, grabbing a piece of parchment off the desk and then begins reading," So!
Let us begin! "

Jenda peers closely at Penzei; she should guard her secrets carefully...

Penzei says 'First Topic of discussion! The most common healing weaves, which is your prefered healing
weave and why ? '

Aelrena ponders life, the universe, and everything.

Marisue says 'cure light wounds!'

Jenda looks at Marisue.

Penzei says 'Marisue please elaborate!'

Chloro lets the others go first.

Marisue says 'cure light wounds is a simple weave and one of the first I learned, so I can weave it
even in the heat of battle if circumstances permit.'

Penzei nods in agreement.

Marisue says 'its fast, and doesn't tire me out significantly, and I can start helping immediately.'

Penzei says 'I absolutely agree !'

Penzei says 'Anyone else ?'

Aelrena says 'I'm rather fond of cure critical wounds personally, though I've had little experience
with healing during battle.'

Jenda tilts her head in question.

Chloro says 'I have 2 approaches depending on where I am healing.'

Penzei says 'With your limited experince, how do you feel cure critical wounds gets the perverbial job
done?'

Aelrena says 'I personally find that the amount it tires me out vs. the amount that is restored to
my patient allows me more healing.'

Aelrena shrugs helplessly.

Penzei says 'Yes, Accepted Chloro ? please go on!'

Chloro says 'In heavy battle I prefer cure serious as it gives a little more health back, cure light
is night but one good bash can destroy what was done. For healing in campsites and at the gate Cure
critical gets others back into battle faster.'

Jenda nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'Well said !'

Aelrena nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'I personally have found that when I am able to perform battlefield healing, a few
applications of Cure Serious Wounds will bring even the most heavily beaten combatants back into the
fight!'

Penzei says 'And I use that one almost exclusively'

Penzei says 'Does anyone have anything they would like to add to the topic before we move on ?'

Adey says 'I found myself agreeing with Marisue, in theory, for the reasons she stated and relating
to Aelrena, in pracitce (or lack thereof) as I have little experience with combat healing.'

nod adey
Penzei nods at her.

Adey says 'But it sounds like I should look into Cure Serious.'

Jenda tilts her head in question.

Adey makes a note of it.

Marisue disappears into the void.

Marisue has returned.
Marisue yawns.

Penzei says 'Thank you Accepted Adey!'

Chloro clears her throat. "May I clarify?"

Penzei says 'Absolutely!'

Penzei says 'Please continue!'

Aelrena listens quietly, her eyes darting toward Chloro.

Marisue says 'may I just interject'

Chloro says 'Regardless of your healing ability, every little bit counts. Remember the stronger you
weave the more elements are needed. '

Penzei picks up a piece of parchment for herself with a quill and makes mental notes for herself.

Penzei says 'Yes, Accepted Marisue ?'

Jenda nods at Chloro.

Marisue says 'I really do feel with respect to what Chloro is saying, that if you have a higher
skill in the more intensive healing weaves then they have significant value, however if you do not..

Marisue thinks hard.

Marisue says 'I'd be happy to do a breakdown or test if anyone wants to volunteer on actual
successes versus failed weaves'

Penzei senses Kathala connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Kathala is channeling saidar.

Penzei nods in agreement.

Penzei senses Kathala connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Kathala is channeling saidar.

Kathala gestures briefly at Kathala, who now appears more impressive somehow.

Marisue says 'but my opinion is a 95% cure light wounds vs anything less than 91 of the other weaves
falls in the favouor of cure light.'

Marisue says 'while you might have an example where cure critical has two successes in a row, the
offset to that is a high degree of failure'

Marisue shrugs helplessly.

Marisue says 'its why I stick to what I learned first, and best'

Penzei continues jotting down her own notes before looking back up at the classroom and saying,"
Excellent point of view! " while nodding.

Penzei says 'And thank you for offering to help anyone!'

Penzei turns towards the Aes Sedai in the room and says outloud," Aes Sedai, do you have anything to
add on the subject before we move on ? "

Tolza glances up.

Tolza says 'No very good, continue.'

Kathala shakes her head slightly before saying 'I do not, Accepted Penzei, continue.'

Jenda blinks her eyes innocently.

Penzei turns back to the class and begins speaking broadly again," Okay! Great ideas everyone and
like Accepted Marisue said, if you would like any advice about healing weaves please contact one of
us! "

Penzei says 'Next Topic!'

Jenda grins at Penzei.

Jenda whispers something to Kathala.

Kathala nods pensively at Jenda.

The door is opened from the other side.

Cera has arrived from the west.

Cera closes the door.

Kathala hits someone's left leg hard.

Cera curtseys gracefully.
Jenda looks at Cera.

Someone tries to hit Kathala, but she dodges the attack.
A Gray Sister joins Kathala's fight!
Kathala hits someone's body.

Cera strikes someone's body hard.
Penzei's blood freezes as you hear someone's death cry.

Jenda frowns.

Cera curtseys before Kathala.

Kathala says 'Sloppy, Accepted.'

Cera curtseys before Jenda.

Jenda arches an eyebrow.

Penzei winces a bit...

Penzei senses Kathala connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Kathala is channeling saidar.

In the Classroom
A board of black slate hangs on the wall near the door, suggesting this
room is used as a classroom. The room is plain and windowless and has
enough place to seat thirty students. A dais with a desk sits at the front
of the room, where the Aes Sedai or Accepted teaching the class can sit.
[ obvious exits: W ]
Zone: White Tower Upper Floors
Door west: door
The corpse of a rat is lying here.
Cera Merimon, Tower Accepted is standing here.
Marisue the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Adey Genhald the Tower Accepted is standing here.
A young Tower Guard is on duty here.
Lady Kathala Arantes, Ra'dar is standing here.
Aelrena Solyan the Journey Accepted is standing here.
Chloro Arovni, the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Jenda Sharaad is standing here.
Tolza of Murandy is standing here.
A Gray Sister walks here, considering her options.
A haughty young woman strides by practicing Aes Sedai serenity.

close door
It's already closed!

Penzei giggles.

Jenda says 'Your.. tag along. he has ears and eyes. '

Cera says 'Apologies, Kathala Sedai. I had rushed here.'

Cera curtseys before Tolza.

Jenda tsks.

Penzei says 'Lets continue!'

ayy What are your thoughts on cure status affect weaves and which do you keep ready ?

A lantern held by Kathala begins to dim a little.
Tic length updated to: 62.253 seconds.

Tolza says 'Even a queen stubs her toe, but a wise woman watches the path.'

Tolza glances at Cera.

Penzei says 'What are your thoughts on cure status affect weaves and which do you keep ready ?'

Jenda smirks.

Jenda grins at Penzei.

Cera says 'I will be more mindful of my surroundings, Tolza Sedai.'

Cera looks chagrined.

Penzei says 'Apprentices of the Yellow Ajah keep them all ready at all times however we are in mixed
company ofcourse'

Penzei giggles.

The door is opened from the other side.

Ruby has arrived from the west.

Ruby closes the door.

Cera stops using a backpack.

Cera gives a backpack to Ruby.

Ruby thanks Cera heartily.

Jenda says 'I pray sometimes, Accepted. And I'll spare you those prayers. But they are full of
suggestions on Curing and Healing. '

Kathala eats a plate with bread and green veined cheese.

Jenda winks suggestively at Penzei.

Penzei says 'Greetings Accepted Ruby! our current topic is Cure Status weaves and if you keep any ready
to go and their uses on the battlefield!'

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Jenda looks at Ruby.

Jenda blinks her eyes innocently.

Ruby blushes.

Penzei says 'Would anyone like to share first ?'

Ruby says 'I apologize for my tardiness.'

Penzei giggles.

Aelrena says 'I have training in most personally, just in case someone needs to be restored and I'm
around.'

Tolza says 'I would like to know Ruby's thoughts.'

Jenda says 'Dear would you want a moment to collect yourself? '

Chloro lets the younger Accepteds to first interested in their approach and how teaching may have
changed.

Penzei senses Kathala connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Kathala is channeling saidar.

Ruby says 'I've been spending quite a bit of time in the Blight lately, and I've found Cure Poison
to be invaluable.'

Tolza nods in agreement.

Cera nods at Ruby.

Ruby says 'Many shadowspawn wield poisoned swords and their effects are quite crippling.'

Penzei says 'I whole heartedly agree, Cure Poison can be weaved upon yourself and others and can be the
difference in winning and losing engagements!'

Cera says 'If I may, I have not learned the weave but find myself greatly missing its potential.'

Penzei nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'Does anyone know which of the cure status weaves you may weave upon yourself and which you
cannot ?'

Marisue says 'ah yes I was given a task on this'

Adey thinks hard.

Penzei senses Kathala connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Kathala is channeling saidar.

smile marisue
Penzei smiles at her.

Marisue says 'you can cure poison, contagion, blind'

Penzei nods in agreement.

Marisue says 'healing weaves are not self targetting'

Chloro says 'To add to Ruby's answer Cure blindness is also a most effective tool to have both in
the north and anywhere else. Not only the shadow is able to blind. '

Penzei nods in agreement.

Ruby nods at Chloro.

Marisue says 'you can also cure fear on yourself'

Penzei says 'Yes, Seanchan Damanes have been known to use blinding weaves effectively'

Marisue shivers uncomfortably.

Aelrena nods along and listens quietly, her eyes darting between the speakers.

Penzei says 'as well as most of the other status affect weaves...'

Penzei says 'Much to many of our dismay'

Cera says 'I find the most dangerous and unexpected source of blindness is often that of the
fireworks crafted by the Illuminators.'

Marisue thinks hard.

Cera says 'Less so from the weaves of damane or dreadlords.'

Marisue says 'my apologoes, I've been passed some notes that cure fear is not self castable'

Marisue says 'if you need to cure fear, I believe I was able to fear myself, and then release the
weave.'

Marisue says 'its been a long time since that task.'

Penzei says 'Now that is an experiment!'

Penzei giggles.

Adey strikes through a previous note.

Penzei says 'I do also state that the shadowspawn are just as likely to use devilrous fireworks they've
stolen from Illuminators to devastating effect, oftening blinding and disorienting their targets and
spreading them far from where they were.'

Cera nods at Penzei.

Chloro says 'There is an Aes Sedai who also keeps cure contagion in their arsenal of healing
effects. I have not tried it before, but it seems most effective. '

Aelrena nods in agreement.


Penzei says 'Absolutely Accepted Chloro, what is the most common use for removing one's contagion on the
battlefield ?'

Chloro says 'That I would deffer to a yellow apprentice or Aes Sedai. I am skilled in healing but,
no match for those mentioned.'

Penzei says 'Even in death the eyeless seem to spread their darkest onto their armor and touching it
releases the deadly contagion onto them!'

Marisue says 'when shadowspawn equipment causes contagion'

Ruby peers closely at Tolza, trying to figure her out.

Marisue shudders gently.

Adey nods at Marisue.

Jenda arches an eyebrow.

Kathala stops using a leather water flask.

Tolza chuckles politely.

Tolza nods at Ruby.

Penzei says 'Many an excited Gaidin has found disaster because after they managed to defeat a fade, they
found themselves afflicted by a contagion and then mobbed by it's angry trolloc followers because
they could barely stand!'

Jenda nods in agreement.

Ruby says 'Tolza Sedai and I had a bit of a run in with such an item not too long ago after she
killed Byrg.'

Penzei nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'Nasty stuff!'

Aelrena cringes in terror!

Jenda frowns.

Tolza has a small vexed frown that creases her forehead.

Cera says 'It is particularly debilitating for those with lower constitutions'

Penzei says 'Such equipment can also cause a drain on those who hold onto it for very long!'

Tolza says 'Thank you for illustration for every one that child.'

Penzei giggles.

Ruby blushes.

Penzei says 'Now I must state outloud that ofcourse pre obtained and premixed concoctions for curing the
these different status effects are in fact often easier to use and execute in the heat of combat....
BUT in a pinch and if you have exhausted your supplies... said weaves could save your life!'

Cera nods in agreement.

Ruby nods in agreement.

Cera says 'I was just about to ask that. How do you see the interplay between such connoctions and
the use of the One Power?'

Cera says 'I find myself harvesting many herbs these days for those exact beneficial effects.'

Cera peers closely at Marisue, trying to figure her out.

Penzei says 'With the notable except of a contagion... almost everything else can be cured via potion
but supplies for such things can be rare and on the battlefield often very difficult to resupply'

Cera nods vigorously.

Cera says 'Indeed. It does take a while.'

Penzei says 'So even if your not apprenticing to the Yellow Ajah it might be in your best interest to
get one or a few of the cure status weaves... just in case!'

Aelrena nods at Penzei.

Penzei turns once more towards the Aes Sedai in the room," Aes Sedai, do you have anything more to
add before we continue" she stats with a smile.

Tolza shakes her head.

In the Classroom
A board of black slate hangs on the wall near the door, suggesting this
room is used as a classroom. The room is plain and windowless and has
enough place to seat thirty students. A dais with a desk sits at the front
of the room, where the Aes Sedai or Accepted teaching the class can sit.
[ obvious exits: W ]
Zone: White Tower Upper Floors
Door west: door
Marisue the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Ruby the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Cera Merimon, Tower Accepted is standing here.
Adey Genhald the Tower Accepted is standing here.
A young Tower Guard is on duty here.
Lady Kathala Arantes, Ra'dar is standing here.
Aelrena Solyan the Journey Accepted is standing here.
Chloro Arovni, the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Jenda Sharaad is standing here.
Tolza of Murandy is standing here.
A Gray Sister walks here, considering her options.
A haughty young woman strides by practicing Aes Sedai serenity.

Penzei glances back at the parchment before her and looks back towards the classroom and says,"
Alright then! Last topic of discussion, When to heal and when not to heal and our oaths! "

Aelrena nods in agreement.


Aelrena says 'in part the ethics of healing then.'

Aelrena nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'The Three Oast ofcourse tell us, Not to use the one Power as a weapon except against
Shadowspawn, or in the last defense of my life, the life of my Warder, or that of another Sister.'

Penzei says 'And we may not use our powers against any that do not wish it or take offense to it!'

Aelrena nods in agreement.


Penzei says 'For example... in the lands north of Fal Dara, I myself have come face to face with the..
Children of Light... as they call themselves... of whom were gravely injured but because they do not
wish it and it is against our Oaths we cannot assist them.'

Penzei says 'Does anyone else have such an example ?'

In the Classroom
A board of black slate hangs on the wall near the door, suggesting this
room is used as a classroom. The room is plain and windowless and has
enough place to seat thirty students. A dais with a desk sits at the front
of the room, where the Aes Sedai or Accepted teaching the class can sit.
[ obvious exits: W ]
Zone: White Tower Upper Floors
Door west: door
Marisue the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Ruby the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Cera Merimon, Tower Accepted is standing here.
Adey Genhald the Tower Accepted is standing here.
A young Tower Guard is on duty here.
Lady Kathala Arantes, Ra'dar is standing here.
Aelrena Solyan the Journey Accepted is standing here.
Chloro Arovni, the Tower Accepted is standing here.
Jenda Sharaad is standing here.
Tolza of Murandy is standing here.
A Gray Sister walks here, considering her options.
A haughty young woman strides by practicing Aes Sedai serenity.

Aelrena ponders life, the universe, and everything.

Chloro gauges the room seeing if any do before she speaks.

Cera shakes her head.

Ruby shakes her head.

Penzei glances back and forth with a faint smile hoping someone will speak up

Tolza whispers something to Jenda.

Adey thinks for a moment then shakes her head no and shrugs apologetically.

Ruby says 'Well'

Jenda says 'I personally would Heal them whatever the Cost to their morals. The Fight against the
Dark to me is beyond convetional ethics. Though that is not what we teach our students. '

Ruby says 'One thing to consider in regards to Healing on the battleground is that you don't expend
so much of your energy healing that you're unable to continue the battle yourself.'

Penzei coughs loudly.

Penzei giggles.

Jenda arches an eyebrow.

Kathala murmurs 'To do what must be done, we all carry the spark of the other Ajahs.'

Penzei senses Kathala connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Kathala is channeling saidar.

Kathala gestures briefly at Kathala, who now appears more impressive somehow.

Aelrena says 'The only thing that comes to mind actually, is someone not having enough energy to be
healed, where the shock of the healing would kill them, thought it's not... quite, the same.'

Jenda nods at Kathala.

Aelrena chuckles politely.

we deplete ourselves to heal others as much as we need our power to defeat the shadowspawn...

Jenda says 'Though it is not against our oaths, Accepted. We can Heal them. the commonly adopted
ethics we adhere to is... another thing. '

Penzei says 'It is a precarious position to be in on the field of battle, using our abilities knowing
that we deplete ourselves to heal others as much as we need our power to defeat the shadowspawn...'

Chloro says 'I have such an experience. '

Penzei nods in agreement.

Penzei says 'Please continue Accepted Chloro'

nod jenda
Penzei nods at her.

Chloro says 'It is not as heroic as yours with the Children. However they are not the only people
mistrust the one power.'

Jenda grins evilly.

Penzei says 'Very good point !'

Chloro says 'A few years ago when I was just raised to tower accepted. A tinker woman was brought
into the field clinic up north.'

Penzei says 'Many of the common folk are distrustful of the White Tower for sure'

The door is opened from the other side.

Sarinda has arrived from the west.

Sarinda closes the door.

Cera curtseys before Sarinda.

Penzei smiles happily.

Ruby curtseys before Sarinda.

curtsey sarinda
Penzei curtseys before her.

Chloro says 'They distrust the one power as they have seen what those who can channel are capable of
doing on the battle field. The way of the leave does not care what kind of weapon it is.'
Jenda whispers something to Kathala.

Aelrena curtseys before Sarinda.

Chloro curtseys gracefully.

Penzei says 'Welcome Sarinda Sedai'

Adey curtseys before Sarinda.

Jenda greets Sarinda with a light kiss on her cheek.

Sarinda says 'My apologies for interrupting. If it pleases the Light, please feel free to continue.'

Penzei nods in agreement.

Sarinda touches her hand to her forehead, lips, and heart in greeting.

Adey whispers to her neighbor "Thought it was Vannor, for sure..."

Jenda spits over her shoulder.

Penzei says 'I am actually curious about a Red Ajah perspective on the matter! Since they spend the most
time out in the world as they say!'

Sarinda arches an eyebrow.

Chloro says 'The girl had a deep cut to her arm that was infected. She refused healing and in the
end came to know the mothers last embrace. It was the hardest lesson I have had to learn. We cannot
cure those who do not want to be cured. To channel on them after refusal to me is against the
oaths.'

Jenda grins at Sarinda.

nod chloro
Penzei nods at her.

Penzei says 'In your experince Sarinda Sedai what would you have done in that situation or in any other
similar situation ?'

Jenda says 'Chloro dear. In that situation you must follow your conscience but do not mistake this.
Everything but Death can be Healed. '

Aelrena ponders life, the universe, and everything.

Jenda says 'And being pouty about the One Power doesn't count. '

Penzei giggles.

Chloro nods to Jenda Sedai. "I know this, but should it was the bigger question."

Aelrena nods quietly, but then her eyes dart back to Jenda Sedai and she begins to smile.

Sarinda says 'You mean in a situation in which someone refused Healing, and died as a result?'

Aelrena chuckles politely.

Penzei says 'Frankly... yes'

Jenda says 'There is no question. Heal them if they are useful regardless. '

Kathala says 'Do penance later.'

Kathala nods to herself, she must need reassurance.

Marisue looks around slowly, as if something is hidden in the room.

smile kathala
Penzei smiles at her.

Tolza nods in agreement.
Jenda says 'As an Aes Sedai you do what must be done. '

Marisue says 'what if there is an oath foreswearing this?'

Jenda says 'There is not. '

Marisue says 'as an Aes Sedai, not an accepted.'

Marisue says 'I don't mean an Oath, an oath.'

Jenda nods at Marisue.

Kathala says 'There is not.'

Marisue says 'if someone says swear to me you will not heal me, prior, and not knowing the future..'

Jenda says 'I said Aes Sedai. You're training for this position aren't you? '

Jenda says 'Well now. at the moment you swore you meant it. things change. '

Jenda says 'Be smart, ladies. '

Marisue thinks hard.

Sarinda says 'If it pleases the Light, if I offered Healing and a person refused, I normally do not
provide it. But if that person were someone whose death would cause more deaths, where their refusal
could be viewed as selfish, I might not even ask in the first place.'

Jenda nods at Sarinda.

Penzei says 'Well spoken Sarinda Sedai!'

Adey nods at Sarinda.

Penzei says 'Thank you'

Chloro nods to sarinda. "That I can agree with."

Aelrena nods in agreement.

Jenda says 'If he's slaying trollocs ... He must live for a while longer. '

Jenda gestures vaguely with her hand.

Penzei giggles.

Penzei says 'Well! I believe unless anyone else has anything to add to the topic that would be a close!'

Adey says 'There are greater matters at hand, sometimes, than mortal predilections and
preconceptions.'

Jenda laughs softly.

Penzei senses Tolza connecting to the True Source.

Adey blushes at having said that out loud.

Penzei senses Tolza is channeling saidar.

Tolza fails to pull together whatever flows she was trying to weave.

Penzei senses Tolza is channeling saidar.

Tolza sits down and rests.

Penzei lays the parchment back on the desk and the faces the classroom once more and exclaims,"
Thank you everyone, Aes Sedai and Accepted for joining me in this debate today! I hope that we all
learned something !"

Penzei curtseys to her audience.

Aelrena nods in agreement.

Aelrena smiles happily.

Cera claps approvingly.

Jenda grins at Penzei.
Adey nods at Penzei.

Marisue smiles happily.

Tic in 7 seconds!

Sarinda says 'The Atha'an Miere have a saying, 'The wave that has passed cannot be called back.'
Sometimes it is easier to take decisive action, and ask for forgiveness, than allow someone else's
perspective to color mine, and in doing so, bind my hands by nature of the Third Oath.'

wink jenda
Penzei winks suggestively at Jenda.

Aelrena says 'thank you for holding it, it was great to hear the opinions of people with battle
-healing experience.'

Cera says 'Thank you, Accepted Penzei and the various Aes Sedai.'

Adey says 'Thank you for conducting the discussion, Accepted Penzei.'

Aelrena nods at Sarinda.

Tolza stops resting, and clambers on her feet.

Penzei senses Sarinda connecting to the True Source.
Jenda says 'Well done Penzei'

Marisue smiles happily.

Penzei senses Tolza connecting to the True Source.

Penzei senses Tolza is channeling saidar.

Tolza fails to pull together whatever flows she was trying to weave.

Penzei senses Tolza is channeling saidar.

Kathala's face gains a chin as she smiles.

Tolza sits down and rests.